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Swift 1.6vvt engine into a 2007 vvt jimny project

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14 Jan 2017 08:01 - 22 Jan 2017 18:35 #176776 by Riccy
Hi,

After failing with the rocklobster conversion, i now have my eyes on a engine from a 2010 swift sport, which i believe is a m16a VVT with 125hp/109lb/ft specs.

From reading earlier posts that looks like the one i need for my 2007 m13a VVT jimny. Obviously theres some stuff to swap over, but is it just the engine i need to buy? Also how does the standard gearbox/clutch/exhaust handle the bigger engine, all the same? and finally, apart from fluids and sump gasket, is there anything else i need to buy?

Thanks in advance :-)

Riccy

J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp

Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...

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14 Jan 2017 09:34 #176779 by Keithy
I put the non vvt Liana into my non vvt in a day.....pretty straghtforward.

A couple of pipes to swap over and a few threads to chase(engine mount threads get a little "cruddy" through lack of use)..cam cover needs swapping over..no sump gasket but my recommendation is to use PU sealant (polyurethane).

I used the liana dipstick too.....full level on Liana stick is low level on jimny.....better made stick too.

Looking forward to the result!

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14 Jan 2017 17:14 #176798 by Riccy
No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationSounds pretty straight forward then.

I really need to know if the 2010 swift m16a vvt is compatible, as i have a chance at one for a good price locally. Swifts are also specced as higher BHP/torque than a grand vitara (the other donor option), but this is probably somewhat to do with inlet manifold and exhaust arragements, as well as ECU.

This is a link to an australian on ebay thats selling them as a 'kit' from the GV engine...



but i cant find anyone thats done it with my specific combination of swap.

Help appreciated,
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J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp

Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...

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14 Jan 2017 17:35 #176801 by Riccy
have also found this...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_M_engine#M16A

which suggests that the specs on a grand vitara engine are (slighty) better - 120bhp/115lb/ft - ie more torque, which is what i'm really after anyway.

however, theres not that much difference and its loads more than the 1.3 lump pulling me about at the moment so if it will fit, i'm having that swift engine next weekend ;-)

J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp

Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...

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14 Jan 2017 20:16 #176819 by kirkynut
If it works it sounds like an awesome solution to more power.

But, the gearboxes on the early vvt engined Jimnys were known for bearing issues and Jimny transfer boxes are chain driven, not gear. Chains stretch and chatter as a result.

So as far as transfer boxes go, the Rocklobster is great but the new and old gears don't mesh quietly and whine as a result. I think you had other fitment issues, which I can't understand the reasons for.

Rockwatt will polish gears to stop this whine now.

So by adding power and torque, you may kill your gearbox or transfer box.

There is the Trail Gear transfer box gear conversion. This changes some of the gears in the original transfer box. The chain issue remains though and from memory, the high ratio isn't reduced, making road driving on bigger tyres trickier.

So if you can make a Rocklobster with polished gears work, you're laughing!

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15 Jan 2017 01:50 - 15 Jan 2017 01:57 #176824 by zukebob
+1 to all that kirkynut said.

I would also work to confirm that the ebay engine is a VVT. The picture (which I doubt is the actual engine) is non-VVT. More importantly, the donor car is listed as a 2005-2007 Grand Vitara. I don't think those years had the VVT M16. I'm not a Vitara expert but just make sure.

Here is a link to another forum about the engine swap. www.auszookers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f...74feb42273a25bec047b

I started out with nothing & still have most of it left
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