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How to increase steering wheel reaction?
04 May 2011 09:25 #15852
by andyw
Replied by andyw on topic Re: How to increase steering wheel reaction?
Hi Thor,
How big are your tyres, If there big you can get the tyres catching the foot well on lock to lock steering, are they knobbly tyres? Might need the BFH out to flatten the seam.
Has the truck been off-roaded? give us a bit of info( background)
Do the 12 o/clock......6 o/clock test, jack wheel of the ground then get your hands top and bottom then push/pull to see if you got any play there.
You could check your CV's, ...............one would hope it's not that on a young truck
Let us know how you go on mate
Andy
How big are your tyres, If there big you can get the tyres catching the foot well on lock to lock steering, are they knobbly tyres? Might need the BFH out to flatten the seam.
Has the truck been off-roaded? give us a bit of info( background)
Do the 12 o/clock......6 o/clock test, jack wheel of the ground then get your hands top and bottom then push/pull to see if you got any play there.
You could check your CV's, ...............one would hope it's not that on a young truck
Let us know how you go on mate
Andy
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05 May 2011 03:21 #15894
by THOR
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hi andy...my tires are 255/60/15. I've checked and the tires are not catching the footwell.
Yes, i take the jimny offroading every weekends.
I did the 12 and 6 oclock tests and there's no play there....
however, when i turned my right wheel (while it was jacked off the ground) near to the end point of the turn, there was play and a clicking sound.
when i did the same on the left wheel, there was none.
does this mean my right CV is damaged?
Yes, i take the jimny offroading every weekends.
I did the 12 and 6 oclock tests and there's no play there....
however, when i turned my right wheel (while it was jacked off the ground) near to the end point of the turn, there was play and a clicking sound.
when i did the same on the left wheel, there was none.
does this mean my right CV is damaged?
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05 May 2011 03:40 #15895
by THOR
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i've talked to a mechanic and he told me that my jimny does not have a CV...he said its an old type of axle without CV (something about a "ball-bone" type)...anyway here's a photo:
he told me that it is probably a loose wheel bearing...
could this be it??
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he told me that it is probably a loose wheel bearing...
could this be it??
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05 May 2011 04:24 #15896
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re: How to increase steering wheel reaction?
Change your mechanic!!
Here is a picture (ok - so its bust!) of the part your mechanic claims your car doesn't have!!
Could either be a CV clicking or the Vacuum hub is stuck?
Here is a picture (ok - so its bust!) of the part your mechanic claims your car doesn't have!!
Could either be a CV clicking or the Vacuum hub is stuck?
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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05 May 2011 05:58 #15899
by andyw
Replied by andyw on topic Re: How to increase steering wheel reaction?
, As Martin says lol, did mine in at KORC last week drivers side, But Dunk from MuddyZook just got stuck in and stripped it down got the old one out with all the fragments and grease.
Rockwatt ( Rich) tried phoning around the local factors, but unlucky......So the next morning Dunk put it all back together ( before his BRECKY) so I could get about the site and get home, hell of a good guyB)
Andy
Rockwatt ( Rich) tried phoning around the local factors, but unlucky......So the next morning Dunk put it all back together ( before his BRECKY) so I could get about the site and get home, hell of a good guyB)
Andy
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05 May 2011 16:43 #15915
by THOR
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hi martin...thanks for the photo...
is the Jimny's CV inside the axle? coz i can't see it on the outside.
could my problems be caused by a front axle not centered? I recently had a 2.5" suspension lift but i did not install an adjustable track bar..so my front axle is out a little to the left....
a mechanic observed that when the sound is heard, the axle was moving....
is the Jimny's CV inside the axle? coz i can't see it on the outside.
could my problems be caused by a front axle not centered? I recently had a 2.5" suspension lift but i did not install an adjustable track bar..so my front axle is out a little to the left....
a mechanic observed that when the sound is heard, the axle was moving....
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05 May 2011 16:48 #15917
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re: How to increase steering wheel reaction?
If the axle is moving then something is pushing it such as a rubbing tyre, siezed or broken CV joint. Can you feel the push or a snatch through the steering?
Martin
Martin
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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05 May 2011 17:37 #15920
by THOR
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yes martin, i could feel a snatch on the steering wheel...
could the moving axle be caused because my track bars need lengthening to accomodate my suspension lift?
i'm thinking:
1. install an adjustable track bar, and see if problem goes away (clicking sound, moving axle, and steering play)
2. if above doesn't work, open the axle and check CV
or do you think I should check the CV first, before purchasing an adjustable track bar...i don't know which option is cheaper....
could the moving axle be caused because my track bars need lengthening to accomodate my suspension lift?
i'm thinking:
1. install an adjustable track bar, and see if problem goes away (clicking sound, moving axle, and steering play)
2. if above doesn't work, open the axle and check CV
or do you think I should check the CV first, before purchasing an adjustable track bar...i don't know which option is cheaper....
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07 May 2011 11:56 #16006
by kirkynut
What's all that dark stuff on the wheel that looks like some sort of oil that's leaked and been wiped off? Are your swivel joints leaking?
If they are, how much diff oil is left in the front diff?
Has leaking diff oil gone through the swivel housing and washed the grease out of your CV's?
With the upmost respect, I think given the lack of understanding and experience you seem to have through the questions you are asking, at this time it might be an idea that you find a good local mechanic that knows what they are talking about, rather than the one you have been dealing with who clearly doesn't!
I think the hubs need stripping down and all components need inspecting but before hand an experinced person needs to look at the problem. It is difficult for people on here to diagnose the problems from description alone.
In respect of the track bar (panhard rod), that should have been something you did with the lift, rather than after.
In respect of the odd feeling streering, it is due to the castor angle being wrong, and I doubt a local tyre shop with basic geometry measuring equiptment could have measured it, so I suspect they were just taking your money. They might have been able to check camber, which has no adjustment on a Jimny, and tracking, which would need adjusting with the new panhard rods you need.
I hope this helps.
Kirkynut
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Replied by kirkynut on topic Re: How to increase steering wheel reaction?
THOR wrote: i've talked to a mechanic and he told me that my jimny does not have a CV...he said its an old type of axle without CV (something about a "ball-bone" type)...anyway here's a photo:
Attachment IMG_5700.JPG not found
he told me that it is probably a loose wheel bearing...
could this be it??
What's all that dark stuff on the wheel that looks like some sort of oil that's leaked and been wiped off? Are your swivel joints leaking?
If they are, how much diff oil is left in the front diff?
Has leaking diff oil gone through the swivel housing and washed the grease out of your CV's?
With the upmost respect, I think given the lack of understanding and experience you seem to have through the questions you are asking, at this time it might be an idea that you find a good local mechanic that knows what they are talking about, rather than the one you have been dealing with who clearly doesn't!
I think the hubs need stripping down and all components need inspecting but before hand an experinced person needs to look at the problem. It is difficult for people on here to diagnose the problems from description alone.
In respect of the track bar (panhard rod), that should have been something you did with the lift, rather than after.
In respect of the odd feeling streering, it is due to the castor angle being wrong, and I doubt a local tyre shop with basic geometry measuring equiptment could have measured it, so I suspect they were just taking your money. They might have been able to check camber, which has no adjustment on a Jimny, and tracking, which would need adjusting with the new panhard rods you need.
I hope this helps.
Kirkynut
The underdog often starts the fight, and occasionally the upper dog deserves to win - Edgar Watson Howe.
My Jimny Thread Here: www.bigjimny.com/index.php/forum/8-my-ji...on-continues?start=0
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