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08 Feb 2024 14:28 - 08 Feb 2024 14:31 #254140 by lightning
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Touch screens should be okay although unlike a lot of modern vehicles the Jimny can be used without it.
The technology is fairly robust. They've been fitted in cars for nearly forty years, the first was in the 1980's from memory 

LED headlights yes l can see in the future that being an issue although l am sure aftermarket alternatives will be available, or just replace them with SZ4 non-LED
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08 Feb 2024 14:35 #254141 by Soeley
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Touch screens should be okay although unlike a lot of modern vehicles the Jimny can be used without it.
The technology is fairly robust. They've been fitted in cars for nearly forty years, the first was in the 1980's from memory 

LED headlights yes l can see in the future that being an issue although l am sure aftermarket alternatives will be available, or just replace them with SZ4 non-LED
Sorry if this sound snobbish, but once you have got used to LED headlights, you wouldn't want to go back the Halogen lights 

I do think, that the LED lights on all cars should not be sealed though, you should have the option of swapping the blown LED for a new one, just like regular bulbs. Last time I looked a Gen4 LED headlight was about £500 

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08 Feb 2024 20:54 #254146 by rogerzilla
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Mine's turned up at the dealer, 10 days earlier than expected.  I wonder if they'll defer registration until 1 March if I pay them now?

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08 Feb 2024 21:07 #254147 by mlines
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rogerzilla wrote: Mine's turned up at the dealer, 10 days earlier than expected.  I wonder if they'll defer registration until 1 March if I pay them now?

They should do

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08 Feb 2024 21:11 #254148 by mlines
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Soeley wrote: Sorry if this sound snobbish, but once you have got used to LED headlights, you wouldn't want to go back the Halogen lights 



This was a concern for us, but in reality it was a non issue. Swapping around between our cars it really doesn't come to mind at all. Indeed there is a certain authenticity about the retro design that it has SJ headlights

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08 Feb 2024 21:30 #254149 by rogerzilla
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I prefer halogens on wet roads - the bluish LED light gets swallowed up by dark tarmac.  I have cars with both types.

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08 Feb 2024 22:00 #254150 by jlines
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I can't say I miss the LED headlights when driving my daily LCV but then most of my driving is in a well lit area so bright lights aren't really needed and new cars coming the other way annoy me with their blinding lights. I also prefer the retro look from the outside on my daily. SZ5 headlights are unbeatable though on your own on a dark road.
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18 Feb 2024 10:40 - 18 Feb 2024 10:49 #254409 by lightning
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"Last time I looked a Gen4 LED headlight was about £500"

£500? that's pocket change. A headlamp unit for the new Defender is close to £4,000!

Fortunately Powerful U.K. are already offering a repair kit at under £100 for these light units.
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18 Feb 2024 10:51 - 18 Feb 2024 10:52 #254410 by rogerzilla
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They're quite a bit more than £500 each on Jimnystyle.  The wiring may well be different too, so you'd have to be pretty determined to do the upgrade.

The dirty little secret of LEDs is that they dim with use.  If you drive a lot, after a few years the lights won't be as bright and there isn't much you can do about it.  If cooling is really good and the components are fully shockproofed, they stay brighter for longer.
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18 Feb 2024 11:23 #254411 by lightning
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The traditional headlamps on my old Defender had replaceable bulbs which cost £15 for a pair.

l never had a problem with the light output, on or off road over eight years and 90,000 miles. 

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18 Feb 2024 11:29 #254412 by rogerzilla
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I find Osram Silverstar H4 are a good balance between light output and longevity, and they are usually accurately made.  Some H4 bulbs give a terrible beam pattern because the geometry of them isn't quite right.

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18 Feb 2024 15:33 - 18 Feb 2024 15:34 #254418 by lightning
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l always used Philips "Bluevision" they lasted about a year but were definitely an improvement over the standard bulbs.

Probably why l never had any issues with them not being bright enough. Although they were legal wattage, 55/65 l think?
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