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Can i swap m13a non vvt with m16a vvt ?( update )

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18 Nov 2015 16:12 - 23 Nov 2015 02:50 #156573 by Mr.m.y
Hi

It seem my jimny is non vvt

The problem is our market (Middle east ) only have swift m16a vvt or m15avvt

so i Think if i replace my jimny ecu and wire harness non vvt with Swift m16a vvt ecu and wire harness it will be possible
My idea it will work or no? there is any problem ?

Give your advice what i should do ?

The choices that i get till know

1- Swap only the block m13a block with m16a vvt block
2- Swap the engine vvt and connect cam sensor wire from the front of the head on a non vvt to the rear on a vvt
3- swap the engine and replace the ecu and wire harness for swift vvt ( maybe it not work )

if have idea tell me

which of 3 choices you prefer

i went to the market

I found Hundreds of VVt m15a engine from swift for each 400 $
also I found only one ( only one ) engine come from export of VVt m18a engine it cost 775 $ ( only one in our market )
and i found one I found engine of VVt m16a engine it cost 820 $


which one i should chose if you want reach more than 125 HP
Thank you
Last edit: 23 Nov 2015 02:50 by Mr.m.y.

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18 Nov 2015 18:31 #156591 by Mr.m.y
any help ?

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18 Nov 2015 19:10 #156595 by Smoggy
Replied by Smoggy on topic Can i swap m13a non vvt with m16a vvt ?
I would say not. I paid a company called SPANNERMONKEYS from Newcastle way to fit me a 1.5 engine from a Suzuki Swift sport (which they also supplied). My car was a G13B non vvt (evident from its age as it was an X ref and they didn't even do vvt that year. However spanner@@nkeys fitted the vvt engine and subsequently overheated then blew up in the middle of a forest as many on here will testify. Morale of the story get a professional to do the work eg Redacted or Richie's Jimny not Spanner@@nkeys! Sorry to go on

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18 Nov 2015 19:35 #156600 by BENNY
Replied by BENNY on topic Can i swap m13a non vvt with m16a vvt ?
richie"s jimny had a 1.6 liana in it .do a search on here see what comes up.

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19 Nov 2015 12:32 #156643 by Mr.m.y
richie"s jimny had a 1.6 liana in it .do a search on here see what comes up.

can you send me the link

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19 Nov 2015 13:37 #156648 by Mr.m.y
I need help please

The choices that i get till know

1- Swap only the block m13a block with m16a vvt block
2- Swap the engine vvt and connect cam sensor wire from the front of the head on a non vvt to the rear on a vvt
3- swap the engine and replace the ecu and wire harness for swift vvt ( maybe it not work )

if have idea tell me

which of 3 choices you prefer

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19 Nov 2015 14:01 #156649 by wombat
Replied by wombat on topic Can i swap m13a non vvt with m16a vvt ?
I would suggest that you get someone who knows what they are doing to do the job

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20 Nov 2015 06:35 #156690 by Mr.m.y
It seem i will replace the block

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20 Nov 2015 06:58 #156692 by j999pre
I would fit the full vvt engine and see how it runs. If you don't like then swap the head for the non vvt jimny one. That way you may not need to do the head swap which would save a lot of work.

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20 Nov 2015 10:20 #156699 by Mr.m.y
thank you

good idea

i will try
thank you

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20 Nov 2015 23:05 #156754 by Smoggy
Replied by Smoggy on topic Can i swap m13a non vvt with m16a vvt ?

j999pre wrote: I would fit the full vvt engine and see how it runs. If you don't like then swap the head for the non vvt jimny one. That way you may not need to do the head swap which would save a lot of work.

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I don't think your Jimnys non vvt ecu will like the vvt engine. It doesn't have the ability to advance the timing in vvt form leading to overheating and timing issues.

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21 Nov 2015 12:31 #156774 by kirkynut
My understanding is that you can use your 1.3 non vvt head on the 1.6 block which will do away with the vvt gubbins and run fine, even on the standard 1.3 map.

As long as they are both the same engine code save the capacity part. Ie: an M13a head on an M16a block.

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