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When I Think of Lift
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I think of this (sorry Dave)
It's just a good thing he had this to protect his vehicle (typed in a sarcastic tone):
This may start a little bit of a debate, which likely should take place at the local pub, but I meet so many people at my club that think the higher the better and I am at a bit of a loss. It seems that many want a vehicle they need a ladder to get into.
I have a simple philosophy that all the things you do to the geometry of a vehicle should be done only to the degree necessary to meet the requirements of where you drive; anything more than that creates a disadvantage.
Not meant as a challenge, as I am sure it has much to do with personal taste, but I am curious why people go after excessive lift. Before anyone replies, I concede from the beginning that using the term excessive is subjective. Mostly just curious.
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Well said! Should you ever find a proper method, please pm me so that I can copy it.Lambert wrote:
As someone currently searching for negative lift I have no idea what you mean!
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Well said! Should you ever find a proper method, please pm me so that I can copy it.Lambert wrote:
As someone currently searching for negative lift I have no idea what you mean!
The r and d on this is not going well. At the moment it is either custom made at significant expense or lopping coils off lift springs which is a mathematical minefield when relying on the random information suppliers give.
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I've been driving lift Suzukis, Vitaras at first before upgrading to a Jimny, and have never rolled or 'had a little lie-down'
Didn't know what the second photo was, so had to Google it, to find it was a wing (fender?) bar that goes from the front bumper to the sidebars...
I have a simple philosophy that all the things you do to the geometry of a vehicle should be done only to the degree necessary to meet the requirements of where you drive; anything more than that creates a disadvantage.
Totally agree, I need lift and clearance to drive over rocks and in the ruts left by vehicles with bigger tyres, we take our little Jimnys through some of the gnarliest 'greenlanes in the UK...
And with enough lift and articulation it can do this -
... rather than not flexing and therefore falling over!
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I'm mostly curious why some go to extremes without having a vehicle use well defined in their minds. Is it a philosophy of "more lift is obviously going to mean better performance"? Is it simply they think that a sill sitting at chin level is manly? I'm stuck wondering why they go after this. The couple of times I (very diplomatically) questioned some of the club members, it went directly to a very short defensive discussion. I don't slight anyone for modifying their Jimny however they want. If someone does it for looks only, more power to them. I have no right to judge. I'm just hopeful that they are aware of the disadvantages created.
I am still curious what the mindset is for most that pursue lift.
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With my Gold ‘daily driver’ Jimny I had a picture in my minds eye of how I wanted it to look aesthetically, but also wanted it to be capable in all weather conditions, and possibly a bit of gentle (read non-damaging!) greenlaning...
I knew I wanted 235/75/15s and I didn’t want to mess about with castor correction bushes or arms (for a daily driver), so went for a 2” TrailMaster lift and a 2” body lift, so a comfortable ride and near stock suspension... longer springs and shocks, but standard radius arms and bushes and up to now standard panhards, although I’ve just bought some standard length HD ones from 4x4Outlet (JimnyBits) on eBay, so that’ll be the suspension sorted, strong enough for a bit of ‘laning...
That gives me 4” of lift to get my choice of BFG ATs under it, and it ‘looks right’ (in my opinion)...
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So really i don't think there is any definitive answers to why people lift there jimny as it sits in the broad spectrum of why do people modify their cars? ..
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I enjoy the anonymity of a standard looking car when I'm pootling about, people hardly notice me. Having a car that performs beyond it's standard appearance is also one of my "things". I already get looks from hot hatch drivers after a series of B road bends, the car now has little roll or pitch and it can follow pretty aggressive lines through a series of bends. I'm just about used to the sidewall flex on the tyres and how it changes with temperature, the car is quite predictable now.
Others like the Paris-Dakar look, I do and would build one in a heart beat, but as a second car only and sadly funds won't allow.
An abundance of cheap-ish modification parts is not always a good thing (I have spent years sorting out poorly modified mini's). Cars that are modified with little or no real plan in mind, end up with mismatched components which often encourage drivers to think a car is more capable than it is. I'm sure a lot of jimny's fall into that bracket, the route to modify is easy and requires little technical knowledge to start down.
I'm looking forward to finding the off road limitations of my standard height car, with the bits I've changed and am planning to, I think it will show the odd lifted car how to do it.
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