Spotlight relay wiring help

Fitted a pair of spots to the front today, now I'm sure I read somewhere that the high beam wiring is different to most other cars, negative switch or something,
If so what is the rearranged wiring to the relay?? so which number pins(86/87/ etc ) get which wire, ie power/ high beam circuit/ earth etc
Hope this makes sense??
Cheers
Alan

www.bigjimny.com/index.php?option=com_ku...=7&id=9695&Itemid=75
Have a look here.

Thanks for the pointer
Had a look at it, but have to admit, cannot make a great deal of sense from it, with my limited know how of electrics, all i need to know is, can I use the relay supplied with the lamps, and which wires do i need to connect and to where? swop wires to different numbers on the relay to cater for a switched earth?? or does it require more and different wiring??
Cheers
Alan

with the jimny its easy ... a standard automotive relay SPST has 4 terminals ..
the terminals are usually numbered 30, 87, 85,86

30 and 87 are the low current "switch" circuits, and in a simple installation, would take a feed direct from the positive of the main beam (30) and then connect to earth (87) .. this will cause the relay to "click" when you put main beam on.

Now, in order to light the spot lights, you need to take a high current feed from the battery (ideally via a fuse) to the high current side of the relay (85). next, take a feed from (86) to your spotlights (+ve), and then earth the spotlights.

This will give you the spotlights comming on with main beam.
you can take it a step further by putting a switch in before the relay (30) to isolate the spotlights if you donot want to have them on when you put main beam on all the time.

check out 4 pin relays here
www.reuk.co.uk/Automotive-Relays.htm

Thanks for that, now I think I understand, I'll wire it up as you state tomorrow and sort it out, just out of curiosity, looking at the wiring diagram, I am assuming that the positive for the main beam is the red wire going to the holder on the headlamp bulb?
Cheers
Alan

ooky_123
Just noticed also, often down your neck of the woods, got family who live in Wildhern, nice part of the country you live in!!!
Alan

I'm so glad someone else couldn't make sense of it.

Thanks ooky for the laymans explaination!
To put in a switch before the relay i go from main beam to the switch then back to the relay?
I really don't do wiring. :blush:

ooky_123 wrote:
30 and 87 are the low current "switch" circuits, and in a simple installation, would take a feed direct from the positive of the main beam (30) and then connect to earth (87) .. this will cause the relay to "click" when you put main beam on.

This will not work on the Jimny as the original poster has already correctly spotted that the headlights on a Jimny are negatively switched. Therefore the positive feed to the lights is always on, connecting a relay in this way will mean is always on. You need to wire a permanent live to (30) on the relay and connect the earth of the relay (87) to the switched wire from the headlamp switch in the car.

Take a look at my diagrams here

www.bigjimny.com/images/Suzuki/Wiring/visio-wiring2.pdf

on the second page called "Jimny accessory wiring" you can see the spot-light relay (which I called "Main Beam Relay" in the centre of the diagram at the top. You can see it has a red "live" feed and the switching is on the earth (black) side and goes off to the headlamp switch on the steering column.

Martin

Martin,
Thanks for the info, would it be possible to give me more of a laymans guide to wiring the relay,
ie 30 to where
87 to where
85 " "
86 " "
Am I correct in thinking, that 30 is a fused permanent live
87 goes to the high beam circuit(to pick up being switched on)
if thats so what do I connect to the other two?? one is obviously the feed to the spots? which one?
Cheers
Alan

hi,
i have do this on my jimny:

A+

Would the image below do the trick, is this the way to wire up the relay to get the lights to work with the high beam circuit??
Cheers
Alan

Well how about that for a coincidence,
Previous post showing exactly what I just found, Thanks Renard38, my french for colours is not good, but will look them up.
Cheers
Alan