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New Gen4 Snorkel

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10 Jan 2023 21:10 #246813 by Soeley
Replied by Soeley on topic New Gen4 Snorkel
Thanks for the offer Roger, very kind. I will keep you in mind, but will see if I can find any locally.

I will have a measure up at what diameter pipe is needed and see if I can come up with something.

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10 Jan 2023 21:16 #246814 by Soeley
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How thick is the wall section of the flexible pipe? I know it's supposed to be flexible by nature but it looks like it would begin to resonate with the intake without too much effort. I might suggest looking at a suitable diameter piece of twin wall conduit as it will take a fairly tight bend but it's smooth inside and quite rigid for what it is.
Not sure how thick it is tbh, didn't pay too much attention to the thickness. Maybe as a cheap try out i could try wrapping the pipe and adding some securing points to rule out the pipe itself resonating?

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10 Jan 2023 21:40 - 10 Jan 2023 21:44 #246815 by Soeley
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A quick point on fitment and 300bhpton's door rubbing. Looking back through this thread I noticed the difference in the holes we had to drill for the riv-nut.

You can see on this one how close it is to the existing square hole.
 

Where mine is further towards the front.
 

This is something out of our control as it is determined buy the fitting of a bolt in rear most existing wing bolt hole and using the snorkel as a template.
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15 Jan 2023 13:11 - 15 Jan 2023 13:12 #246912 by RainerK
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Harmonics is is some kind of (black) magic. If what you describe is the result of a standing wave then spoiling it might help. One easy way might be to put a rectangular baffle into the vertical part of the snorkel that sits axial, just jams a little, and can withstand the air flow. This would be easily removable and will change the harmonics of the long circular pipe.
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15 Jan 2023 13:51 - 15 Jan 2023 13:52 #246914 by DrRobin
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My first suggestion would be to ask the manufacturer/supplier if this is a known problem?

I might have missed something but does 300BHP have the same snorkel and his doesn’t vibrate? If so check to see what is different.

As RainerK says, it’s a black art, think of an acoustic guitar, it’s the string that vibrates when plucked, but it is the wooden body that we hear the sound from. The snorkel it’s self is probably just amplifying the sound rather than generating it.

In your case there isn’t a pluck but a series of small vibrations which when the structure hits resonance can be heard and felt.

The small vibrations might come from the air moving through the system, it is taken in pulses or might just be from the engine. If it’s from the air, the air box and filter should dampen them, so it might be from the engine.

You could try re-routing the flexi pipe, possibly rubber mount it and put more fixing points, anything to change the resonant frequency.

Robin

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15 Jan 2023 17:26 #246918 by Soeley
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DrRobin, 300bhpton did report the same issue, only I think his could be worse than mine going off his description? I also think he did contact Bravo, which I should do, just being lazy at the moment. I'll put it on my to do list ;)
 

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