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Its Re:Re:Re:Turning the traction control off (Gen 4)
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12 Aug 2020 14:21 #226565
by Lambert
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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Replied by Lambert on topic Re:Turning the traction control off (Gen 4)
I'm so glad my gen3 came with the much more advanced intelligent traction control system. It's becoming obvious that the new one is a definite step back in time.
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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13 Aug 2020 21:56 - 13 Aug 2020 22:04 #226630
by crash486
Replied by crash486 on topic Re:Re:Turning the traction control off (Gen 4)
If you are really keen, try one of these.
cartune.me/notes/s7lWlZT203?fbclid=IwAR2...UtGOgU0LXB4ldO4tYWNk
If someone has a service manual, perhaps they can lookup "service mode" related to ESP.
I have read that entering service mode will disable the 30kph enable setting. The whole system is reset via Power off/on.
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cartune.me/notes/s7lWlZT203?fbclid=IwAR2...UtGOgU0LXB4ldO4tYWNk
If someone has a service manual, perhaps they can lookup "service mode" related to ESP.
I have read that entering service mode will disable the 30kph enable setting. The whole system is reset via Power off/on.
crash486 JB74W
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14 Aug 2020 07:43 #226648
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Replied by CC Baxter on topic Re:Re:Turning the traction control off (Gen 4)
Anyone else know of this Service Mode? Is it a real thing and if so what can you access/adjust? Chris
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14 Aug 2020 08:20 - 14 Aug 2020 08:22 #226654
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re:Re:Turning the traction control off (Gen 4)
There is a service mode for the ESP.
It is activated either through the Suzuki scan tool or manually by linking pins 1 and 2 on the service connector under the dash and then turning the ESP off by a long press on the ESP button.
It is activated either through the Suzuki scan tool or manually by linking pins 1 and 2 on the service connector under the dash and then turning the ESP off by a long press on the ESP button.
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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14 Aug 2020 21:04 #226671
by GeorgeC
Replied by GeorgeC on topic Re:Re:Turning the traction control off (Gen 4)
Hi Martin, would there be a similar Mode for the Alternator Control? I would love to re-set the minimum to 12.8V!mlines wrote: There is a service mode for the ESP.
It is activated either through the Suzuki scan tool or manually by linking pins 1 and 2 on the service connector under the dash and then turning the ESP off by a long press on the ESP button.

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15 Aug 2020 04:40 #226677
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re:Re:Turning the traction control off (Gen 4)
George
I wouldn't attribute too much intelligence to the charging system, you may be over-thinking the whole issue. Whilst more complex than the classic charging circuit on older cars, it is still nothing much more than a feedback circuit. A shunt in the battery negative wire provides the ability to monitor the voltage/current being drawn/charged from the battery, ECM "knows" what major circuits are running in the car (lights, aircon etc) and using this information can command the alternator to turn off or on (plus various states of "on") through control of the exciter coils in the alternator. It states that the primary function of this circuit is to generate electricity suitable for the engine speed and electrical load and also to prevent a drop in idling speed if electrical load rapidly increases i.e. limits the Alternator if it detects the electrical load is impacting engine performance.
From the manual, the generator features are as follows:
•Solid state regulator is mounted inside the generator.
•All regulator components are enclosed into a solid mold.
•The IC regulator along with the brush holder assembly is attached to the rear end frame.
•The IC regulator uses integrated circuits and controls the voltage produced by the generator, and the voltage setting cannot be adjusted.
ECM optimally controls the generator output voltage by changing the excitation current and regulated voltage based on the following information.
•Engine condition (ECT, vehicle speed, engine speed, TP, etc.)
•Battery voltage (ECM power supply voltage)
•Electric load condition (blower motor, rear end door window defogger, headlights, radiator cooling fan, A/C compressor, etc.)
•Field coil control duty which indicates the operation rate of the field coil.
•The signal to the “LIN” terminal of the generator adjusts the regulating voltage of the IC regulator, which in turn controls the duty ratio of the field coil and thus the output voltage (“B” terminal output) of the generator.
Regulated voltage 10.6 – 16.3 V at 25 °C (77 °F)
I wouldn't attribute too much intelligence to the charging system, you may be over-thinking the whole issue. Whilst more complex than the classic charging circuit on older cars, it is still nothing much more than a feedback circuit. A shunt in the battery negative wire provides the ability to monitor the voltage/current being drawn/charged from the battery, ECM "knows" what major circuits are running in the car (lights, aircon etc) and using this information can command the alternator to turn off or on (plus various states of "on") through control of the exciter coils in the alternator. It states that the primary function of this circuit is to generate electricity suitable for the engine speed and electrical load and also to prevent a drop in idling speed if electrical load rapidly increases i.e. limits the Alternator if it detects the electrical load is impacting engine performance.
From the manual, the generator features are as follows:
•Solid state regulator is mounted inside the generator.
•All regulator components are enclosed into a solid mold.
•The IC regulator along with the brush holder assembly is attached to the rear end frame.
•The IC regulator uses integrated circuits and controls the voltage produced by the generator, and the voltage setting cannot be adjusted.
ECM optimally controls the generator output voltage by changing the excitation current and regulated voltage based on the following information.
•Engine condition (ECT, vehicle speed, engine speed, TP, etc.)
•Battery voltage (ECM power supply voltage)
•Electric load condition (blower motor, rear end door window defogger, headlights, radiator cooling fan, A/C compressor, etc.)
•Field coil control duty which indicates the operation rate of the field coil.
•The signal to the “LIN” terminal of the generator adjusts the regulating voltage of the IC regulator, which in turn controls the duty ratio of the field coil and thus the output voltage (“B” terminal output) of the generator.
Regulated voltage 10.6 – 16.3 V at 25 °C (77 °F)
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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