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Its Re:Re:Re:Turning the traction control off (Gen 4)
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15 Aug 2020 05:42 #226679
by GeorgeC
Replied by GeorgeC on topic Re:Re:Turning the traction control off (Gen 4)
Gee, thanks Martin!! I love the explanation, Jimny Electronics, 101.1. 
I can see the short answer is NO!
I hold out hope that, one day someone in an office somewhere will change the 10.6V to 12.6V and my battery will re-charge?

I can see the short answer is NO!
I hold out hope that, one day someone in an office somewhere will change the 10.6V to 12.6V and my battery will re-charge?

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15 Aug 2020 07:57 #226685
by Roger Fairclough
Replied by Roger Fairclough on topic Re:Re:Turning the traction control off (Gen 4)
I am not that hot on electronics but I would have thought that at 10.6 volts, a battery was dead.
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15 Aug 2020 08:02 #226686
by Scimike
It is.
Anything south of 12.5v was considered flat and in need of a charge.
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Replied by Scimike on topic Re:Re:Turning the traction control off (Gen 4)
Roger Fairclough wrote: I am not that hot on electronics but I would have thought that at 10.6 volts, a battery was dead.
Roger
It is.
Anything south of 12.5v was considered flat and in need of a charge.
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
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15 Aug 2020 08:04 #226688
by mlines
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2003 M13 early KAP build.
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Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re:Re:Re:Turning the traction control off (Gen 4)
The 10.6 to 16.3 volt range of the alternator is what it can output. Something is commanding it to output the voltage. Therefore if it is outputting low, either the alternator is faulty or the command circuit is telling it to do the wrong thing.
If it's is being told wrong then the sensor shunt on the battery is faulty or there is a faulty connection or wire in the circuit. If the ECM thinks the engine needs help it will command the alternator to drop the voltage it is generating to help relieve the load on the engine. You could probably disconnect the battery sensor and create a little circuit to simulate demand on the battery and see if the alternator output is varied by the ECM
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If it's is being told wrong then the sensor shunt on the battery is faulty or there is a faulty connection or wire in the circuit. If the ECM thinks the engine needs help it will command the alternator to drop the voltage it is generating to help relieve the load on the engine. You could probably disconnect the battery sensor and create a little circuit to simulate demand on the battery and see if the alternator output is varied by the ECM
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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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15 Aug 2020 08:15 #226689
by mlines
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Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re:Re:Re:Turning the traction control off (Gen 4)
10.6volts is just a statement of the controllable range specification of the alternator, not what it should output at any given time.Roger Fairclough wrote: I am not that hot on electronics but I would have thought that at 10.6 volts, a battery was dead.
Roger
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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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15 Aug 2020 09:41 #226697
by CC Baxter
Replied by CC Baxter on topic Re:Re:Re:Turning the traction control off (Gen 4)
Thanks Martin for the detailed explanation of the alternator. Does any JB64/74 in various markets come with a conventional (old fashioned) high output unit? As you point out the system doesn't appear to be that clever so changing the alternator and rearranging some wiring might well give all the charge you'd ever need. Chris
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