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Re:That super short grinding noise in first gear...

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06 Nov 2023 22:22 #252009 by Roger Fairclough
Yes, Wikipedia supports your view that a chain drive is quieter but other sources suggest the need to change the chain every 60,000 miles as to a gear drive outlasting the motor.
The Gen.4 does not have a neutral in the T-box and towing it with the rear wheels on the deck will cause catastrophic damage.

Roger

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07 Nov 2023 14:28 - 07 Nov 2023 14:28 #252016 by facade

Yes, Wikipedia supports your view that a chain drive is quieter but other sources suggest the need to change the chain every 60,000 miles as to a gear drive outlasting the motor.
The Gen.4 does not have a neutral in the T-box and towing it with the rear wheels on the deck will cause catastrophic damage.

Roger

 
The chain will do starship miles if the fluid doesn't escape (or the box fills with water..) The one on my RangeRover had 225,000 miles when I sold it and there was no noise from the chain hitting the case (they don't have a tensioner and when they wear enough the slack hits the casing), the one on my old Gan 3 is up to 170,000 now.

It was a joke about the neutral in the Gen 4- is yours the only one that just clicks into low and stays there? mine and most others need really forcing into low otherwise they just jump out and have no drive. Even if you could get it reliably into the false neutral, it is still in 4wd so you can't tow it.

IIRC, the SJ transfer case has an interlock so the H-N-L selector can only move out of H when the 2WD-4WD selector is in 4wd, so neutral transfer will be 4wd and you can't tow it (Unless you modify the SJ 'box)

The series Landrover was similar, the red lever engages 4wd before it engages neutral transfer, which might have been intentional, as it was handy for winching or PTO tools to have the transfer brake act on both axles

 

If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there :)
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07 Nov 2023 15:15 #252017 by Roger Fairclough
Info. I have obtained confirms that a chain is quieter than gears and I have acknowledged that. The info. concerning mileage came a design engineer via. the web and was quoted verbatim. I would suggest that if a chain is so worn that it hits the case, then it is well past it's sell by date. It was this point that the engineer remarked on when he suggested a 60,000 mile life marker.
Well yes, I stop the motor and push the T.box lever down and then pull it backwards and it goes into 4 low. The handbook is Japanese translated into some European language _ha -ha - and then into English. As a new car buyer we were given a piece of plastic on which was printed a direct translation - well nearly - of the instructions that were virtually a direct opposite of the handbook. If you follow the markings on the gear knob it explains the process. So yes, mine goes straight into 4 low and stays there until I change it.
From memory my SJ series T.box had neutral marked on the gear lever. I used to move it into neutral when I parked in a duff neighbourhood as an attempt to stop the SJ from being nicked. The low life, hopefully, didn't realise the T.box had a neutral and would panic when the motor wouldn't move.

Roger

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02 Dec 2023 19:31 #252590 by Filipao

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13 Feb 2024 06:16 #254257 by Alynn
It's the rear drum brakes letting go from the auto hill hold. Use the handbrake, and you'll notice there is no noise.

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22 Feb 2024 15:27 #254511 by fordem

It's the rear drum brakes letting go from the auto hill hold. Use the handbrake, and you'll notice there is no noise.


Ummmm - I can "re-create" the noise at will, on a flat surface (so brakes and no hill hold involved) - PLUS - if you hold the transfer case lever you can FEEL the vibration.

Maybe your noise is different to mine, but mine is definitely not the rear brakes.

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