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Re:That super short grinding noise in first gear...
04 Jun 2024 15:49 #256173
by PabloAzH
Former owner of JB43 (4sport BR trim) for 6 years/200,000+ km
Currently own auto JB74 since Aug-21 (80,000 km)
- OME suspension kit
- Long Ranger 80L tank
Replied by PabloAzH on topic That super short grinding noise in first gear...
I agree with fordem and others as the origin of the noise probably being the transfer case. I had a 3rd gen for 6 years and about 200k km, manual gearbox, and it used to have a transfer case whine - back then it worried me more so I took it to the dealership and I was told it is normal. Now I have a 4th gen for about 3 years/60k km, automatic gearbox, and I have the same noise, perhaps a bit reduced. Just to be sure, when I noticed it a few months after purchasing the 4th gen I reported it to the dealership during a regular maintenance visit and I was told once again it was normal.
The noise I am talking about is a whine which is more noticeable - as some folks have mentioned - when taking off, specially on steep hills. It subsides to a background humming on highway driving for me. Not concerned about it anymore, but I have been thinking about soundproofing the cabin floor in order to make it quieter. I recently changed the transfer case oil and there was no evidence on the drained oil of any sort of issue. I agree that bigger, heavier tyres/wheels requiring more torque to be transfered through the drivetrain could result in a louder whine. I swapped the original HT 195/80 tyres for AT 215/75 ones with clearly more rolling resistance.
Regarding the different approaches to this noise that Suzuki branches have, it probably goes according to local regulations. Here in Brazil I read an article in 2020 stating that there are no laws for limiting cabin noise.
The noise I am talking about is a whine which is more noticeable - as some folks have mentioned - when taking off, specially on steep hills. It subsides to a background humming on highway driving for me. Not concerned about it anymore, but I have been thinking about soundproofing the cabin floor in order to make it quieter. I recently changed the transfer case oil and there was no evidence on the drained oil of any sort of issue. I agree that bigger, heavier tyres/wheels requiring more torque to be transfered through the drivetrain could result in a louder whine. I swapped the original HT 195/80 tyres for AT 215/75 ones with clearly more rolling resistance.
Regarding the different approaches to this noise that Suzuki branches have, it probably goes according to local regulations. Here in Brazil I read an article in 2020 stating that there are no laws for limiting cabin noise.
Former owner of JB43 (4sport BR trim) for 6 years/200,000+ km
Currently own auto JB74 since Aug-21 (80,000 km)
- OME suspension kit
- Long Ranger 80L tank
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04 Jun 2024 16:48 #256175
by fordem
Replied by fordem on topic That super short grinding noise in first gear...
Earlier this year I put a single layer of Kilmat under the carpet of my wife's JB74, it made a huge difference to the gear noise but did not eliminate it, I'm considering a second layer, time will tell.
I don't think the whine is the transfer case, and that's because the automatic JB74 that I drove didn't do it - I've driven one automatic and two manuals, both manuals whine and the auto didn't suggesting that the whine is the manual transmission - even though the whine is road speed dependent and not affected by gear selection.
I don't think the whine is the transfer case, and that's because the automatic JB74 that I drove didn't do it - I've driven one automatic and two manuals, both manuals whine and the auto didn't suggesting that the whine is the manual transmission - even though the whine is road speed dependent and not affected by gear selection.
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04 Jun 2024 17:59 #256177
by facade
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic That super short grinding noise in first gear...
When I fitted a transfer guard to mine it made the "singing" from the transfer box really noticeable- I think the flat plate was reflecting sound upwards into the cabin.
A piece of that closed cell sound insulation stuck on the inside of the guard has quietened it down considerably.
A piece of that closed cell sound insulation stuck on the inside of the guard has quietened it down considerably.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
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