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31 Aug 2020 16:35 #227594 by Grima
Replied by Grima on topic Raising the drivers seat.
All depends on the insurance company. Some say OK others want more money. As for safety you can buy raising rails on Ebay for a Defender. So what's the difference fitting the same on a Jimny???

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31 Aug 2020 17:02 #227596 by Roger Fairclough
The design of the defender rails is principally to lengthen the seat travel by around 70mm but with the bonus of increasing seat height by between 30-50mm. Lightning wants 10mm so the Defender design is to high.

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31 Aug 2020 17:23 #227598 by Grima
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Forget the Defender rail, It's about raising the factory seat height. Is it legal & safe to do so.
I think it is but the insurance part is a pain.
Claim it as a mobility car. Then you can have a chair that swivel's out & lowers you down.

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31 Aug 2020 17:37 #227599 by Lambert
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My point is that on a defender the rails are engineered and sold covered by consumer law and potentially type approval suggesting fitness for purpose. Versus something cobbled together. I don't have issues with home engineered fixes if it's just for off road use on private land but if it going to be used on the road I don't see why things shouldn't professionally engineered or at minimum properly inspected.

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13 Nov 2020 08:04 #229971 by Groenewald
Raising the seats will be my weekend project:

I am going to make some custom spacers from oilon: I still have some in my workshop and the stuff is EXTREMELY durable.

How difficult is it to remove the seats on a Gen4?

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13 Nov 2020 09:54 #229972 by CC Baxter
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I'm a great fan of plastics for engineering use (easy to machine, cheap to buy) but I'm not sure of your choice of Oilon. You're choosing a material that's main selling point is inbuilt lubrication. Rather than slippery seat mounts wouldn't Delrin for example be a better choice? Only a thought and if you can source something else quicker, where's the harm? Chris

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13 Nov 2020 13:45 #229979 by Roger Fairclough
I agree with CC on this. Any form of plastic will have a degree of flex and link that to inbuilt lubrication and the result could be a degree of squirm that, over a period of time, could loosen the bolts. I used aluminium without any problems. Just remember is use similar mushroom headed bolts.
It's not necessary to remove the seat from the car. If you want to though, you will find that disconnecting the two electrical connections - seat belt warning and seat heaters - takes longer than removing 4 bolts!

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14 Nov 2020 07:08 #229997 by Groenewald

I'm a great fan of plastics for engineering use (easy to machine, cheap to buy) but I'm not sure of your choice of Oilon. You're choosing a material that's main selling point is inbuilt lubrication. Rather than slippery seat mounts wouldn't Delrin for example be a better choice? Only a thought and if you can source something else quicker, where's the harm? Chris


Good point. I have already decided on Delrin. I think I still have a thick enough rod lying around.

The spacers are more visible from the outside than I thought and the green oilon will look downright weird...

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22 Nov 2020 21:56 #230307 by lightning
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Thanks for all the replies.

l will try some aluminium spacers. One thing, when you loosen the rear seat bolt, the captive nut inside also seems to become loose.
Can l just confirm that the nuts don't disappear inside the floor when you remove the bolts?

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