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01 May 2018 05:57 #192309 by Lambert
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I have a quandary. Having now got the suspension under something like control from the point of it no longer arbitrarily choosing to ricochet about like a rubber ball, I am now giving consideration to reducing the actual movement under dynamic loading. There's a couple of ways of doing this. First and most obvious to the uninitiated is to fit huge wheels and low profile tyres. This is not cheap with the rims and tyres coming in at significantly more than 250 pounds a corner. The benefit of this is it will look cool, improve turn in feel and braking stability. The disadvantages, it's abundantly clear that the car has been played with, the nvh transfer of low profile tyres is significant and it doesn't stop the body moving under weight transfer. The second option is harder springs. These are less than a fifth of the price for a set, and are totally stealthy. The advantage is less body movement which will have a benefit in turn in but nothing like the low profile tyres, flatter cornering, more efficient weight transfer for braking. Disadvantages there is a limit on how much ride quality having the majority of the compliance in just the tyre sidewall will give, the springs in question are not a direct fit and will need to modified to gain the correct ride height further stiffening them, having stiff suspension and relatively tall tyre sidewall profiles can induce uncontrollable bouncing under braking like a tractor.

Yes I know that the answer is to buy a 911 turbo and just drive it but I can't. Built not bought.

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01 May 2018 06:06 #192310 by Lambert
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I used to be indecisive but now I'm not sure.

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01 May 2018 07:01 #192311 by Mraz
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What about a stiffer/bigger torsion bar? Or even torsion bar at the back. That should be relatively cheap and easy to do.

I've made mine a "quick disconnect" and since it has a sleeve for cca 15cm of its lenght, it is now notecabely stiffer.

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01 May 2018 07:26 #192312 by Lambert
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I keep an eye open for a diesel sway bar but the last one i found would have been nearly 160 pounds with shipping from France!

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01 May 2018 09:19 #192315 by Mraz
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Why not make your own?

Heat Treating SHOULD be fairly cheap and rest you can do yourself.

Something like this: www.hotrod.com/articles/how-to-make-a-custom-sway-bar/

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01 May 2018 09:38 #192317 by sniper
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Hi Lambert, I've just fitted new standard height KYB springs with superpro 15mm seats and there is very little true body roll.

You can feel it crank over as it lays the sidewall down when you turn in late but generally the sidewall flex is nice and predictable.

Before changing the ARB, try adjustable drop links and poly bush mounts, might save a few bob...

I've been struggling with the same problem as regards tyres, trying to get a 16 with a similar rolling circumference, 225/60 x 16 is what I've decided on, it's slightly smaller than the 215/75 I'm running now but slightly bigger than standard. These will be tarmac tyres so will have a significantly stiffer sidewall and hopefully, will nail the handling.

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01 May 2018 11:50 #192319 by Lambert
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I like the idea of the adjustable drop links as by their construction they will have little or no flex in the stem unlike the factory ones. Tyre wise I am kinda set on 18s but only cos I can't find any 19s that are a direct fit. The other reason for the harder springs is not to carry more weight but to carry the current weight better while still maintaining standard height. But I don't want it to be like my old 90 that only rode properly with half a tonne in the back.

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01 May 2018 16:29 #192322 by Mraz
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With adjustable drop links you can even change the stiffness of sway bar by mounting them forward a bit (drill holes inch or so closer to front end).

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