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Yet another wheel spacer question!

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13 Dec 2013 17:18 #95820 by foggy
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Hi Guys,
Done some forum searches, reading up and messaging some of you guys for advice but I'm still a little confused about which way to go.. So for the last time ( I promise) would you guys share your knowledge and experience on the above....

Wheel spacers...

Is 32 mm the max width for standard 205 70 15 without causing to many problems. (asking because I have seen 50mm spacers). I just want to take the wheels out to the arches (MOT LEGAL) but may fit larger tyres later. I dont want to be cutting, lifting etc at the moment...

Billet aluminium the best for strength?

Hubcentric spacers or not?

Spacers with fitted studs or the other type?

AND finally, would I get the same effect with off set steel wheels and if so in your opinion which causes less stress on the jimny....????

Guys thanks again, I know these questions have prob been asked a thousand times....

Regards

Foggy

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13 Dec 2013 18:17 #95843 by Poyner111
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I have 32 mm with 205-70 and the just sit on the wheel arch line AT tyres no rubbing

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13 Dec 2013 18:27 #95848 by TomDK
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foggy wrote: Hi Guys,
Done some forum searches, reading up and messaging some of you guys for advice but I'm still a little confused about which way to go.. So for the last time ( I promise) would you guys share your knowledge and experience on the above....

Wheel spacers...

Is 32 mm the max width for standard 205 70 15 without causing to many problems. (asking because I have seen 50mm spacers). I just want to take the wheels out to the arches (MOT LEGAL) but may fit larger tyres later. I dont want to be cutting, lifting etc at the moment...

Billet aluminium the best for strength?

Hubcentric spacers or not?

Spacers with fitted studs or the other type?

AND finally, would I get the same effect with off set steel wheels and if so in your opinion which causes less stress on the jimny....????

Guys thanks again, I know these questions have prob been asked a thousand times....

Regards

Foggy


What use do you intend with then?
For offroading, more than just the occasional geenlaning, I'd definitely get billet ones. Those Grayston's are way too flimsy for any real offroading.

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13 Dec 2013 20:54 #95876 by mc_nebula

TomDK wrote: Those Grayston's are way too flimsy for any real offroading.


I couldn't disagree more. There is nothing wrong with the Graystons from a strength perspective(in my opinion).

The graystons extend the studs, you have a stud extender which you screw over your original studs and torque up to the recommended setting. The metal casting sits over the top of the stud extenders and simply prevents them from coming loose. The cast "spacer" itself is not subjected to any abnormal forces or loadings.

If you have a 32mm spacer and a "modular" rim with an offset to achieve an equivalent spacing, the forces (and potential excess wear) are the same.

It is worth noting that the jimny front end is extremely susceptible to inaccuracies in tolerances, and that poorly toleranced parts can cause death wobble. Billet spacers are generally a tighter tolerance than the grayston ones.

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13 Dec 2013 21:04 #95877 by TomDK
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That is another issue with these spacers.

You cannot tighten then up to specified torque, if you do so you're pretty lucky. Their're either overtightened or a bit loose, to fit in the hexagonal hole.

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13 Dec 2013 21:07 #95879 by mc_nebula
I suggest reading the instructions. They state that you should torque them to the required level, then back them off (never going to be more than 1/6th of a turn. I've had them fitted to mine in the past and never found them to have been sat loose. My friend has a set on his jimny too, and he hasn't had to make the studs loose either. The hexagonal hole simply prevents the stud from undoing of it's own accord.

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13 Dec 2013 21:19 #95885 by TomDK
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mc_nebula wrote: I suggest reading the instructions. They state that you should torque them to the required level, then back them off (never going to be more than 1/6th of a turn. I've had them fitted to mine in the past and never found them to have been sat loose. My friend has a set on his jimny too, and he hasn't had to make the studs loose either. The hexagonal hole simply prevents the stud from undoing of it's own accord.


Do a little search on google, then you'll find plenty of unhappy people, who switched to billet ones.

Also, billet spacers comes as little as £75 on ebay, so why bother with there cheap Grayston ones.

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13 Dec 2013 21:26 #95887 by steffan
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75 quid gets you a pair of billet spacers not a full set

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13 Dec 2013 21:29 #95889 by TomDK
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steffan wrote: 75 quid gets you a pair of billet spacers not a full set


Damn, you're right. Was a bit too fast there.

Well, I've found a used set currently at £51 and a new set of 4 for £99 :)

Sorry about that :)

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13 Dec 2013 22:15 #95893 by piprice
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I've got some jimny bits ones, with 2 inch lift and 215/75/15
And I'm having rubbing issues.

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13 Dec 2013 22:24 #95895 by Lambert
I'd be wanting to know precisely the grade of alloy used especially at a hundred quid for 4. Things are cheap for a reason. Also go for hub centric, they're on the axle hub for a reason.

Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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13 Dec 2013 22:31 #95896 by steffan
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So billet are around twice the price of the grayson ones

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