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Jimny VVT less power at low revs than non-VVT?
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09 Feb 2024 21:38 #254182
by DrRobin
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog
Replied by DrRobin on topic Jimny VVT less power at low revs than non-VVT?
Ignore everything I just wrote, I only saw the red trace which looks normal for sensor 1. Sensor 2 looks like it has gone full scale and looks like a sensor or connection fault.
Try a little throttle or blipping the throttle, does it ever change? If not it’s a connection or sensor fault. I would also expect you will get an OBD fault code for this.
Robin
Try a little throttle or blipping the throttle, does it ever change? If not it’s a connection or sensor fault. I would also expect you will get an OBD fault code for this.
Robin
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog
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09 Feb 2024 21:51 #254184
by tomlil01
Replied by tomlil01 on topic Jimny VVT less power at low revs than non-VVT?
Thanks, Robin
There is no fault on the OBD... I'll try a little throttle tomorrow morning. If it doesn't change then I could try replacing the second O2 sensor after the cat?
Would a failed O2 sensor after the cat cause any performance issues? Or only the sensor before the cat?
There is no fault on the OBD... I'll try a little throttle tomorrow morning. If it doesn't change then I could try replacing the second O2 sensor after the cat?
Would a failed O2 sensor after the cat cause any performance issues? Or only the sensor before the cat?
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10 Feb 2024 07:20 #254190
by facade
I could be wrong and it goes into limp mode, but certainly other makes that I am familiar with don't.
It should be around 0.9V indicating no oxygen, so it is out of range.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic Jimny VVT less power at low revs than non-VVT?
Usually no. It just puts the EML on with an emissions fault because it can't monitor the cataylst.Thanks, Robin
There is no fault on the OBD... I'll try a little throttle tomorrow morning. If it doesn't change then I could try replacing the second O2 sensor after the cat?
Would a failed O2 sensor after the cat cause any performance issues? Or only the sensor before the cat?
I could be wrong and it goes into limp mode, but certainly other makes that I am familiar with don't.
It should be around 0.9V indicating no oxygen, so it is out of range.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
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10 Feb 2024 10:16 - 10 Feb 2024 11:32 #254192
by tomlil01
Replied by tomlil01 on topic Jimny VVT less power at low revs than non-VVT?
I think the 1.2v was a red herring. After warming up the car with a drive it was about 0.8 on sensor 2 at idle, and crept up slowly to 0.95 after 5 or 10 minutes of idling.
Driving with the engine under load it was about 0.85/0.9, and dropped down to near zero when taking my foot off the throttle.
Is this a sign that the cat is gone? I have replaced the back (1 year ago), but not the front.
Is the front easy to change so you know?
Thanks
Lee
Driving with the engine under load it was about 0.85/0.9, and dropped down to near zero when taking my foot off the throttle.
Is this a sign that the cat is gone? I have replaced the back (1 year ago), but not the front.
Is the front easy to change so you know?
Thanks
Lee
Last edit: 10 Feb 2024 11:32 by tomlil01.
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10 Feb 2024 19:40 #254207
by facade
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic Jimny VVT less power at low revs than non-VVT?
The steady 0.9V means the cat is working.
Whether the cat works or not doesn't affect how the engine runs. What we've been telling you is that a partially blocked catalyst will restrict the engine power because the exhaust can't get out fast enough and back pressure builds up.
What tends to happen is the front catalyst blocks and starts to break up and crumble, then the dust & fragments lodge in the rear catalyst blocking it.
Other members have simply had the broom stale to the front catalyst and rodded it out to an empty pipe, then run with just the rear catalyst and it still passes emissions at MOT.
I think the front catalyst is part of the manifold, easy enough to change, but spectacularly expensive!
Whether the cat works or not doesn't affect how the engine runs. What we've been telling you is that a partially blocked catalyst will restrict the engine power because the exhaust can't get out fast enough and back pressure builds up.
What tends to happen is the front catalyst blocks and starts to break up and crumble, then the dust & fragments lodge in the rear catalyst blocking it.
Other members have simply had the broom stale to the front catalyst and rodded it out to an empty pipe, then run with just the rear catalyst and it still passes emissions at MOT.
I think the front catalyst is part of the manifold, easy enough to change, but spectacularly expensive!
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
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10 Feb 2024 21:03 #254208
by tomlil01
Replied by tomlil01 on topic Jimny VVT less power at low revs than non-VVT?
0.9v means it's working? My understanding was that it was that it should about 0.45v on the 2nd cat.
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