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Jimny VVT less power at low revs than non-VVT?

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06 Feb 2024 09:42 - 06 Feb 2024 09:43 #254061 by facade
As said, the Suzuki VVT is just a hydraulic phaser unit on the inlet cam pulley. At idle the inlet cam rotates backwards relative to the sprocket to full retarded timing, on load it advances the cam timing. Control is achieved by measuring the inlet cam timing with the cam sensor above the bell housing and vibrating the VVT solenoid control valve backwards & forwards

If the VVT control valve is stuck or the little built in oil filter bunged up it may be on full retard all the time, but I'd expect P0011/P0012 to be set if the desired cam timing relative to the crank couldn't be achieved.


If it is down on power I'd look for restrictions in the exhaust (like a partly blocked catalyst) and inlet (like a blocked or soggy air filter)

If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there :)
Last edit: 06 Feb 2024 09:43 by facade.

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06 Feb 2024 14:24 #254069 by tomlil01
Thanks for this. I did replace the catalytic convertor last year. Also, changed the air filter just last week, and did a compression test which seemed ok (all between 140 and 150)

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07 Feb 2024 10:24 #254093 by yakuza
Mine goes so much better than a std gen3 (and gen4 ) mine is 235, 17% gearing, VVT and m16 and even pulling a trailer it is faster up hills than a std jimny

You say you changed the cat, but there is two of them. (sorry for nagging on and on about them).
could it be you changed the broken number one and the powder from it has clogged the next like mine?
I went from doing my test hill in third gear just barely making 80kmh, to doing 120kmh in fifth after replacing the two broken cats with one generic cat for 2.0 motors.

Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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07 Feb 2024 12:53 #254099 by tomlil01
Thanks, Yakuza. I have been thinking about this. I did change the front cat and after that the car went from almost undrivable to what I thought was normal, but maybe the rear cat has problems like you say.

I will get the car booked into an exhaust place to check this.

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09 Feb 2024 19:59 #254179 by tomlil01
I was just looking at the O2 sensor voltages at idle.

Does this sensor 2 voltage look wrong? What does it tell me?

​​​​​​thanks
Lee 
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09 Feb 2024 21:34 #254181 by DrRobin
Sensor 1 pre-CAT should look like that, the post-CAT sensor should be smooth. Basically it is measuring how much oxygen there is.

The pre-CAT sensor is used to fine tune the fuelling, the post CAT sensor is there to tell if the CAT is working. If the two are both the same or very similar then the CAT has failed.

However, sometimes at tick over there isn’t enough gas going through, check the two traces at a steady rpm, preferably whilst driving at a steady speed.

Robin

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