3 Wheel Drive ?????!!!!!!!

I have recently had a problem if I could say it was a real problem.
( as it only took half an hour to rectify )
I bought some Manual hubs, One vitara set and a set of Superwinch brand ones.I only got them for spares as I do have the the Aisin one fitted already.
The Superwinch ones were not engaging and the vitara ones were stuck.
So I done what I thought was right, stripped them and re-filled them with grease."Bad move"
Then I noticed that the velocity of the grease was stopping them moving correct as it was causing friction and stopping the Lock and unlock working free and easy.
I read on the internet that on NO ACCOUNT must you use grease in hubs and only to use a light coating of oil.
So I did and now both sets work fine, they click in and out great.

I took all the grease out by stripping the hubs and cleaning the whole lot with petrol and removing bits of rusty stuff with a wire brush before re-oiling.
Not a lot can go wrong with manual hubs, they are all very basic and easy to strip and build.
The Aisin type are fool proof and made strong, The Superwinch type are similar ( Strong made and easy to work with )
The Vitara hubs are well IMHO are put together with plastic, even the bit you turn is plastic, so I would tend not to recommend the Vitara ones.

Kirkynut's advice is right !

Cheers

Fieldsports wrote: I have recently had a problem if I could say it was a real problem.
( as it only took half an hour to rectify )
I bought some Manual hubs, One vitara set and a set of Superwinch brand ones.I only got them for spares as I do have the the Aisin one fitted already.
The Superwinch ones were not engaging and the vitara ones were stuck.
So I done what I thought was right, stripped them and re-filled them with grease."Bad move"
Then I noticed that the velocity of the grease was stopping them moving correct as it was causing friction and stopping the Lock and unlock working free and easy.
I read on the internet that on NO ACCOUNT must you use grease in hubs and only to use a light coating of oil.
So I did and now both sets work fine, they click in and out great.

I took all the grease out by stripping the hubs and cleaning the whole lot with petrol and removing bits of rusty stuff with a wire brush before re-oiling.
Not a lot can go wrong with manual hubs, they are all very basic and easy to strip and build.
The Aisin type are fool proof and made strong, The Superwinch type are similar ( Strong made and easy to work with )
The Vitara hubs are well IMHO are put together with plastic, even the bit you turn is plastic, so I would tend not to recommend the Vitara ones.

Kirkynut's advice is right !

Cheers

Yes I appreciate that but it's nothing to do with the hubs, the splined shaft is not even turning and if I operate the hub in my hand it locks and unlocks no problem (Aisin).

How are you trying to turn the splined shaft on the CV that comes through the hub? I've not tried but I doubt I could do it with my hand. Have you put some grips on it or something?

I take it you are using some of Martin's spacers to fit the freewheeling hubs?

Kirkynut

kirkynut wrote: How are you trying to turn the splined shaft on the CV that comes through the hub? I've not tried but I doubt I could do it with my hand. Have you put some grips on it or something?

I take it you are using some of Martin's spacers to fit the freewheeling hubs?

Kirkynut

He has the hubs off ...
Yea he has Martins spacers but he says its hub off and its still not working correct....or is it ?
I do not want to go over other peoples posts but..
Here is a main point that Kirkynut posted earlier.
"If you lock both hubs, have the main gearbox in neutral and jack just one side up, the wheel will always spin. The question is if it is spinning the front prop up to the transfer box. If it does all is fine, if it doesn't the other side's hub is not locked for some reason and the motion you are creating is spinning out through that freewheeling hub as it's easier to do that than turn the prop."
Does the above work ?

With one side of the car up and in 4wd the front and rear wheels (or shafts) will turn together, this happens on the drivers side like it should but not on the passenger side.

Gromit wrote:

Fieldsports wrote: I have recently had a problem if I could say it was a real problem.
( as it only took half an hour to rectify )
I bought some Manual hubs, One vitara set and a set of Superwinch brand ones.I only got them for spares as I do have the the Aisin one fitted already.
The Superwinch ones were not engaging and the vitara ones were stuck.
So I done what I thought was right, stripped them and re-filled them with grease."Bad move"
Then I noticed that the velocity of the grease was stopping them moving correct as it was causing friction and stopping the Lock and unlock working free and easy.
I read on the internet that on NO ACCOUNT must you use grease in hubs and only to use a light coating of oil.
So I did and now both sets work fine, they click in and out great.

I took all the grease out by stripping the hubs and cleaning the whole lot with petrol and removing bits of rusty stuff with a wire brush before re-oiling.
Not a lot can go wrong with manual hubs, they are all very basic and easy to strip and build.
The Aisin type are fool proof and made strong, The Superwinch type are similar ( Strong made and easy to work with )
The Vitara hubs are well IMHO are put together with plastic, even the bit you turn is plastic, so I would tend not to recommend the Vitara ones.

Kirkynut's advice is right !

Cheers

Yes I appreciate that but it's nothing to do with the hubs, the splined shaft is not even turning and if I operate the hub in my hand it locks and unlocks no problem (Aisin).

Just to add..you are right. If the Hub locks and unlocks in your hand then it is working.
You need to see if the shaft that sticks out through the hub turns the prop as if you had a manual hub on and it was in the locked position.

Please tell us if this is the case !