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Stripped the captive nut in my front panhard rod

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27 Jun 2013 16:06 #75262 by ne-crock
Its the front mount on the axle, so looking at the car from the front its right

But yeah its a shame you live so far away,

Thanks for the offer

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27 Jun 2013 18:02 #75271 by GWR

ne-crock wrote: its the front mount, so looking at the car from the front its ive so far away,

Thanks for the offer


I am sorry I couldn't help, maybe if we had more time we could have sorted it. I have had a look at it and see the problem. There is no way to use a nut and bolt without removing the captive nut and that is not going to be possible unless you cut away some of the bracket to access it. It can be done however it will take some time.

If you want to tag along and no one has a front seat spare but can get a ride up in the back you're welcome to jump in with me.

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27 Jun 2013 19:49 #75286 by ne-crock
All sorted!


A huge thanks to richie! Top bloke and has got me sorted to get out on saturday!

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27 Jun 2013 19:54 #75290 by GWR

ne-crock wrote: All sorted!


A huge thanks to richie! Top bloke and has got me sorted to get out on saturday!


Brilliant mate how did he fix it?

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27 Jun 2013 20:07 #75293 by Tadpole
Well done Richie, good to here you are able to get out this weekend, just don't damage anything else ...... :)

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27 Jun 2013 20:08 #75294 by ne-crock
cars sitting on my drive till saturday now!

he managed to get a nut in but had to grind it down a fair bit to fit between the captive nut and the curve of the axle,

all held up well on the drive home so seems promising

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27 Jun 2013 20:12 #75296 by GWR

ne-crock wrote: cars sitting on my drive till saturday now!

he managed to get a nut in but had to grind it down a fair bit to fit between the captive nut and the curve of the axle,

all held up well on the drive home so seems promising


Nice one! What a star :)

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28 Jun 2013 06:31 #75317 by kirkynut
I'm a bit late to this party but never mind!

I had exactly the same problem and had the thread restored and a bolt bigger than the original turned down to the same diameter as the shank of the original bolt with an inch or just under of it's original thread left by it's head and the thread for the captive nut tapped onto the other and then a nut welded on the outside of the panhard rod bracket.

This meant it had two threads. The only thing is the threads were of a different size & pitch so they wanted to screw in at slightly different rates. Mine was fine like this as the different threads created tension and it won't come undone.

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02 Jul 2013 18:03 #75784 by jamesey
this happened to me the wheels wobbled as though the car was in self desruct mode , anyway i had to get the back of my axel cut and had a bolt welded to the rear of this , other than that you need a new axel , its a little bugger to get to the back , its under the passenger side spring mount.

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13 Dec 2024 21:00 - 13 Dec 2024 21:02 #258732 by njet
I googled the issue and this 11yo thread was first. I though I will update it for anyone else looking. 

My issue was as described by the OP: stripped thread in the captive nut + elongated hole at the front. 

I first used the thread repair kit. 12.4mm drill (part of the kit) made a quick work of drilling the stripped nut out. Remember to use drilling oil, just in case. 

The thread insert was M12x1.75 (also part of the kit) and it matched my bolt. Double check if it does in your case. Pictures may look mirrored to you all, but keep calm, it's continental Europe :) 

 


Tips: 
- using cutting oil 
- when tapping, back off ans clean the tap regulaly. It's better to be slow here than break the tap
- the front hole is too small for the tap, I had to thread it as well just to get to the rear 
- lock tide the thread insert 

Once this was done next is the oval hole at the front. Without fixing it the problem would return ruining the effort in the back. 

I found an oversized washer with M12 hole and cut two edges off of it to fit in front of the bracket. 
To make sure the hole aligns with the tapped thread, I screw the screw in before tacking the washer in place. 

Don't judge me on the welds, a battery in my mask decided to quit today and I was welding blind. 

 

A quick test showed major improvement. 
 

Overall took 3h to complete end to end.
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13 Dec 2024 22:54 #258736 by fordem
I hadn't seen this discussion, but, I'm surprised that no one suggested this - it's exactly how I would have dealt with it.

I've done quite a few "helicoil" repairs over the years, some in steel - captive nuts in the anti roll bar mounts underneath a Grand Vitara, captive nuts in bash plate mounts on a Pajero - others in soft aluminium, the intake plenum on a Mitsubishi 4G93.

I keep a stock of certain common sizes, you never know when you'll need them.

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