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Wheel balancing - Centre (hub) or stud

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06 Mar 2024 18:52 #254867 by jackonlyjack
Just use balance beads 
Tyres will never go out of balance 
It's that easy 

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06 Mar 2024 21:37 #254873 by DrRobin

Just use balance beads 
Tyres will never go out of balance 
It's that easy 
Did you get your beads from Dynabeads.co.uk?  Do you go for through the valve (compatible with TPMS) or inserted past the rim?

I must admit there are a lot of options, any hints on which (and how many) I would need for Maxxis 215/70 on Gen4 alloys with TPMS would be gratefully received.

Robin
 

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06 Mar 2024 22:52 #254876 by Hughes
Are the factory alloys not hub centric? normally wheels supplied on a new vehicle have the correct centre bore in them? I've never investigated Jimny alloys as I'm a steelies guy.
It's when you go aftermarket things get tricky, as rim manufacturers often make the centre bore larger to fit a wider range of vehicles. (some rim manufacturers make rims specifically for vehicles - ROH for example make a rim specifically for the Jimny).
We regularly machine spacers for a local tyre shop (the one I personally use) to take up the gap between the hub spigot and the aftermarket alloy rim centre bore, mostly because its better safe than sorry and easier than getting info out of OEM's about whether or not they're actually required for that vehicle.
From my experience steel wheels tend not to be hub centric, (at least the cheaper ones) and alloys nearly always are (or can be), mainly because alloys are machined in one setup, and as a consequence the centre bore is true to the bead.
All this to say balancing a stock alloy rim that is hub centric should be fine either way, through the centre bore, or with a stud adaptor. Its just a question of whether or not the stock Jimny rims are in fact hub centric. Would be very strange if they're not.

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07 Mar 2024 03:43 - 07 Mar 2024 03:44 #254877 by Filipao
I've had my new Showa Garage alloys fitted with Yokohamas and it's spot on.

No weights visible, they're all on the inner surface,  balanced via centre bore.



 
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07 Mar 2024 08:13 #254878 by facade

Are the factory alloys not hub centric? normally wheels supplied on a new vehicle have the correct centre bore in them? I've never investigated Jimny alloys as I'm a steelies guy.
It's when you go aftermarket things get tricky, as rim manufacturers often make the centre bore larger to fit a wider range of vehicles. (some rim manufacturers make rims specifically for vehicles - ROH for example make a rim specifically for the Jimny).
We regularly machine spacers for a local tyre shop (the one I personally use) to take up the gap between the hub spigot and the aftermarket alloy rim centre bore, mostly because its better safe than sorry and easier than getting info out of OEM's about whether or not they're actually required for that vehicle.
From my experience steel wheels tend not to be hub centric, (at least the cheaper ones) and alloys nearly always are (or can be), mainly because alloys are machined in one setup, and as a consequence the centre bore is true to the bead.
All this to say balancing a stock alloy rim that is hub centric should be fine either way, through the centre bore, or with a stud adaptor. Its just a question of whether or not the stock Jimny rims are in fact hub centric. Would be very strange if they're not.
 
You'd think the alloys are hub centric- it is less trouble to machine the rim true to the centre hole than eccentric!

If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there :)

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07 Mar 2024 08:44 #254879 by mlines
The trouble with "Hub centric" is not only does the wheel centre have to be accurate but the hub itself has to be machined to a high standard, Take a look at the hubs on a Jimny :)

Martin

2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
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235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
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