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More flex without lift. Ideas?

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24 Mar 2014 10:56 #109854 by Busta
I'd like to get a bit more flex from my Jimny but I don't want to fit a lift kit.

Currently it is standard with the anti-roll bar disconnected. The rear springs are tired and due for replacement but it's the shocks are limiting the travel.

I know re-location brackets allow the shocks to flex better but they also increase the compressed length of the shock so I'm concerned the shocks will bottom out. Has anyone had that issue?

Are there any other simple ways to get more flex?



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24 Mar 2014 11:12 - 24 Mar 2014 11:13 #109858 by jonesyba420
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you may find my thread on the subject helpfull CLICK HERE .
Last edit: 24 Mar 2014 11:13 by jonesyba420.

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24 Mar 2014 12:08 #109860 by idiotmobil
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lockt he axles up then you wont need flex locked axles compared to flex is much better

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24 Mar 2014 16:20 #109877 by kirkynut
I would go for a 2" lift to get your radius ARM mounts up by a bit as if you are sticking with standard sized tyres or not much bigger, they will be what grounds you in even small ruts sooner or later.

With a 2" lift you only need shocks & springs so don't have to worry about castor correction. You were looking to buy shocks anyway and the relatively small cost of springs is worth it.

You could mess around with extended bump stops otherwise but I think you're making life hard for yourself while missing out on the benefits of the springs.

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24 Mar 2014 16:49 #109884 by Bigjim91
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Or you could save a bit of cash and just get spring spacers, your keeping it more or less standard but your have a touch more ground clearance on those radius arm brackets

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24 Mar 2014 16:58 - 24 Mar 2014 16:59 #109886 by kirkynut

Bigjim91 wrote: Or you could save a bit of cash and just get spring spacers, your keeping it more or less standard but your have a touch more ground clearance on those radius arm brackets


The difference in cash between spring spacers and springs is not so big to be worth it and with saggy old springs a false economy. If a job is worth doing & all that...

Spacers are good if you just want a lift for mainly appearance or realise their limitations but the OP wants articulation that only springs will provide.

Spacers are also good in addition to springs to gain a little more lift.

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24 Mar 2014 18:04 #109904 by Busta

idiotmobil wrote: lock the axles up then you wont need flex locked axles compared to flex is much better


You're right and I have given it some thought but I do 20,000 road miles a year so I'm unsure about the longevity of a lockright and I don't want the expense/hassle of an ARB Locker.

I don't want a lift for similar reasons- cost and worse on-road manners. There's also the issue of insurance, although I haven't actually looked into that. Maybe I need to re-consider things!

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24 Mar 2014 18:28 #109906 by idiotmobil
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Im fitting lockright this week ill be doing a post on how it gos mite take some vids ive been told differnt this by differnt people

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24 Mar 2014 19:13 #109913 by steffan
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Sorry to burst your bubble but a good suspension setup is far superior to a locker although lockers are good a good suspension will get you further lockers are for when you become cross axled were a good suspension set up will allow the axles to flex giving better drive though all four wheels where as one wheel will only get you so far

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24 Mar 2014 19:25 - 24 Mar 2014 19:26 #109916 by Dave cc
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This is something I am going to be working on our new project car going to stick with 205x15 tyres and see what can be done to improve articulation front arb is the obvious one but I am sure there is more that can be gained :whistle:
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24 Mar 2014 20:03 #109919 by TomDK
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steffan wrote: Sorry to burst your bubble but a good suspension setup is far superior to a locker although lockers are good a good suspension will get you further lockers are for when you become cross axled were a good suspension set up will allow the axles to flex giving better drive though all four wheels where as one wheel will only get you so far


Agreed.
Suspension is everything. But no matter if you're running with 3-link, 4-link or whatever type suspension, £40 shocks does not make a good suspension.

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24 Mar 2014 20:34 #109926 by idiotmobil
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theres much discussion on the subject of difflocks vs articulation and its a matter of opinion on the answer really and don't know were you got ddrive to one wheel from diff locks would send power to two wheels

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