×
BigJimnyMeet (North) 2024 (12 Jan 2024)


BigJimnyMeet 2024

14th July 2024
Parkwood Nr. Leeds

Booking now open - Discount for additional vehicles

Click HERE for details

× A place for more technical discussions. Please make sure you post in the correct section on the site, this way it keeps the site tidy AND ensures you get a more relevant answer.

no drive from front axle

  • darthloachie
  • Topic Author
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
    Public
26 Jul 2011 20:44 #19551 by darthloachie
no drive from front axle was created by darthloachie
Hi Guys

as it says - currently have no drive from the front axle
both half shafts and CVs have been taken out and checked and are ok
both aisin hubs have been checked - wheels spin silently when free but can hear movement when locked
however only turning the nearside turns the prop shaft

I am guessing it is something in the front diff?
only problem is it has an ARB air locker fitted
is it going to be a suzuki bit or ARB bit thats broke?
guessing it may be a planetary gear thats buggered?
if I lock the diff with the locker then still only the nearside turns when you turn the prop

Any ideas are welcome
thanks in advance

depressed of Stone :(

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • unsure
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
    Public
26 Jul 2011 20:50 - 26 Jul 2011 20:51 #19553 by unsure
Replied by unsure on topic Re: no drive from front axle
i would say your arb is playing up and not locking.
Last edit: 26 Jul 2011 20:51 by unsure.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • darthloachie
  • Topic Author
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
    Public
26 Jul 2011 20:55 #19554 by darthloachie
Replied by darthloachie on topic Re: no drive from front axle
would that also affect the diff when its not locked?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • unsure
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
    Public
26 Jul 2011 20:59 #19556 by unsure
Replied by unsure on topic Re: no drive from front axle
no but when it is not locked turning each wheel in tudn wont always make the prop spin. are you sure that both cv's and chafts are ok? try with the hub apart and just turning the shaft when engaged into the diff to see if anything will turn.
if you stop the NS from being able to turn and you turn the prop the OS should turn if the shaft and cv are good.
not sure if i make sense here....

i have had loads of diff and shaft and cv issues in he past....i own a landy...lol

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
27 Jul 2011 15:11 - 27 Jul 2011 15:19 #19580 by Johnniehec

unsure wrote: no but when it is not locked turning each wheel in tudn wont always make the prop spin. are you sure that both cv's and chafts are ok?


Sorry "unsure" but I'd disagree. Both front wheels off the ground with the hubs locked rotating either front wheel by hand would result in either the prop turning or the other wheel turning in the oposite direction, whichever is least resistance (with a standard diff or a locker unlocked). With the locker locked turning one wheel by hand would result in the other turning in the same direction AND the prop turning.
From how you have described it darthloachie it looks like one side of the diff but I'm not sure if that's possible have a look at this,


Are you definitely definitely sure it's not a half shaft?

On the 8th Day God made the LandRover -
On the 9th day he swapped it for a Jimny.
Last edit: 27 Jul 2011 15:19 by Johnniehec. Reason: link did not work

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • darthloachie
  • Topic Author
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
    Public
27 Jul 2011 16:18 #19585 by darthloachie
Replied by darthloachie on topic Re: no drive from front axle
Hi

Had both half shafts out and they are fine - so are the CVs

when we broke it we also broke the rear prop so drove home with the arb locked and got drive only from the nearside front I think -it pulled to the left under power

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • unsure
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
    Public
27 Jul 2011 16:59 #19586 by unsure
Replied by unsure on topic Re: no drive from front axle

Johnniehec wrote:

unsure wrote: no but when it is not locked turning each wheel in tudn wont always make the prop spin. are you sure that both cv's and chafts are ok?


Sorry "unsure" but I'd disagree. Both front wheels off the ground with the hubs locked rotating either front wheel by hand would result in either the prop turning or the other wheel turning in the oposite direction, whichever is least resistance (with a standard diff or a locker unlocked). With the locker locked turning one wheel by hand would result in the other turning in the same direction AND the prop turning.
From how you have described it darthloachie it looks like one side of the diff but I'm not sure if that's possible have a look at this,


Are you definitely definitely sure it's not a half shaft?


If you read it again, prop wont always turn.......ie damaged cv or shaft or hub

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
27 Jul 2011 18:45 #19599 by facade
Replied by facade on topic Re: no drive from front axle
If both shafts are fine, and the hub is locked pull the diff and examine it, you were only 15 minutes away from removing it when you had the shafts out.

If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there :)

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • darthloachie
  • Topic Author
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
    Public
29 Jul 2011 15:03 #19675 by darthloachie
Replied by darthloachie on topic Re: no drive from front axle
just had a phone call from my mechanic friend - the diff is out and it is buggered :( although the arb looks ok :unsure:

I am going round tomorrow morning to collect the diff and will need to find another diff to get the arb fitted into and a specialist to do it to set the backlash etc as it is beyond our capabilities
will post pics tomorrow

so is there any particular diff I need or are they all the same?
the jimny is a 2000 hardtop with the 13gbb engine on a V

I am also looking for a specialist to fit the ARB in near or in North Staffs

any advice?

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
29 Jul 2011 15:39 #19677 by mlines
Replied by mlines on topic Re: no drive from front axle
Just send the ARB to me, I will relieve you of the stress and strain its causing you and quietly dispose of it for you, you need never worry about it again ;)

Martin

2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • darthloachie
  • Topic Author
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
    Public
30 Jul 2011 06:36 #19712 by darthloachie
Replied by darthloachie on topic Re: no drive from front axle

mlines wrote: Just send the ARB to me, I will relieve you of the stress and strain its causing you and quietly dispose of it for you, you need never worry about it again ;)


thanks for the offer but it wasn't the sort of advice I was looking for!! :laugh: :laugh:

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • darthloachie
  • Topic Author
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
    Public
31 Jul 2011 05:58 #19747 by darthloachie
Replied by darthloachie on topic Re: no drive from front axle
the diff is out and it will work in a straight line but as soon as you rotate the half shafts at different speeds the offside is very notchy / stops and starts so it looks like I'll have to get another diff and get the ARB put into it
:(

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Time to create page: 0.141 seconds
Powered by Kunena Forum

I hope you enjoy using this forum. Please consider making a donation towards the upkeep of this forum website.

We use cookies to give you the best online experience. Please let us know if you agree to all of these cookies. Accepting the Cookies also accepts the Disclaimers for the website.