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Greasy Rim!!!!!!
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16 Jan 2010 14:11 - 16 Jan 2010 14:29 #1886
by Jamie
Greasy Rim!!!!!! was created by Jamie
Hi Everyone,
I have just been giving my Jimny a good clean to try and get
about 3000ton of grit salt off (Wonder if the local council
want's to buy it!!)When i noticed some grease on the inner side
of my front N/S wheelrim.
Is this the infamous crap seal's on the axle letting go??
I didn't have a really good look but the only place i can
imagine it could come from is the swivel.
It also smell's strongly i think of diff oil.
Any help much appreciated
Jamie
Edit: Martin do you not have any King Pin bearing kit's at the moment
the shop say's not?????
I have just been giving my Jimny a good clean to try and get
about 3000ton of grit salt off (Wonder if the local council
want's to buy it!!)When i noticed some grease on the inner side
of my front N/S wheelrim.
Is this the infamous crap seal's on the axle letting go??
I didn't have a really good look but the only place i can
imagine it could come from is the swivel.
It also smell's strongly i think of diff oil.
Any help much appreciated
Jamie
Edit: Martin do you not have any King Pin bearing kit's at the moment
the shop say's not?????
Last edit: 16 Jan 2010 14:29 by Jamie.
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16 Jan 2010 17:34 #1889
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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Jamie,
Its bad news I am afraid.
The seals on a Jimny are good, I have never heard of a problem with "crap" seals and I have never changed a swivel seal despite working a lot on the front end of my car.
In a Jimny the Swivel Joints are "dry" and the swivel seal is to keep fluids out, not in, so if you have diff oil leaking from the swivel there is something wrong.
What normally happens is that either the Wheel Bearing or Kingpin Bearings have gone. This permits the hub to move around and moves the driveshaft within the axle, this movement of the driveshaft causes oil to leak into the swivel from the diff.
You need to establish whether its the wheel bearing of kingpins.
I would jack up the car and wiggle the wheel on the leaking side by gripping the tyre with both hands and trying to rock it. If the wear is bad then you will feel play in the wheel. If an assistant then presses the brakes and the play disappears it should be the wheel bearing, if the play is still there then its the Kingpin bearings. (Both are, of course, available from my favourite web shop although Kingpin bearings are "in the post" to me at the moment- I do have a personal set if you are desperate).
Weloome to the bearing club!!
Martin
Its bad news I am afraid.
The seals on a Jimny are good, I have never heard of a problem with "crap" seals and I have never changed a swivel seal despite working a lot on the front end of my car.
In a Jimny the Swivel Joints are "dry" and the swivel seal is to keep fluids out, not in, so if you have diff oil leaking from the swivel there is something wrong.
What normally happens is that either the Wheel Bearing or Kingpin Bearings have gone. This permits the hub to move around and moves the driveshaft within the axle, this movement of the driveshaft causes oil to leak into the swivel from the diff.
You need to establish whether its the wheel bearing of kingpins.
I would jack up the car and wiggle the wheel on the leaking side by gripping the tyre with both hands and trying to rock it. If the wear is bad then you will feel play in the wheel. If an assistant then presses the brakes and the play disappears it should be the wheel bearing, if the play is still there then its the Kingpin bearings. (Both are, of course, available from my favourite web shop although Kingpin bearings are "in the post" to me at the moment- I do have a personal set if you are desperate).
Weloome to the bearing club!!
Martin
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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16 Jan 2010 18:44 #1893
by richard
Replied by richard on topic Re:Greasy Rim!!!!!!
i'v got the same prob with mine. it was the kingpins that had gone and that big seal that keeps the grease in. when i took it all apart dif oil started dripping out of it, i just stuffed more grease in did the seal and kingpins put it all back together and it was o.k for about 4month naw its done same again but i did use crappy kingpins from scrapyard cos i needed them on the day and it was a sunday.
going to sort mine again when the weather gets better...
going to sort mine again when the weather gets better...
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16 Jan 2010 18:58 #1894
by Jamie
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Thank's for the reply guy's
Martin,
I will have a check tomorrow and see what is wrong!!
Can't see me getting around to sorting it until the end of the
month i dont have any event's for a while and (i'm hoping here)
if it's the kingpin's i think there is enough life until then.
Thank's for your swift reply's
Jamie
Martin,
I will have a check tomorrow and see what is wrong!!
Can't see me getting around to sorting it until the end of the
month i dont have any event's for a while and (i'm hoping here)
if it's the kingpin's i think there is enough life until then.
Thank's for your swift reply's
Jamie
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17 Jan 2010 11:29 #1896
by jonplace
Replied by jonplace on topic Re:Greasy Rim!!!!!!
my money's on the lower kingpin bearing shot. both mine went and my mates had the same. not too difficult a job. martins bearing kits will sort you out once you know
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17 Jan 2010 11:55 #1898
by Garry
Replied by Garry on topic Re:Greasy Rim!!!!!!
i had the same problem, turned out to be the lower kingpin bearing
look like this?
look like this?
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18 Jan 2010 13:40 #1921
by Jamie
Replied by Jamie on topic Re:Greasy Rim!!!!!!
Had a look today a good bit of play top-bottom
and still there when brakes applied!!!
Look's like i'm doing my kingpin's soon for the first time
should be an experiance!!
Martin,
I am hoping to do it the last week in Jan hopefully you hould have
some stock by then, If not, can i pinch your spare??
Thank's for everyone's input on this.
Just one more question, do i need to take off the 4 pinned
nut
on the bearing as i don't have the tool, or does the hub slide
off with the bearing still in place??
Thank's for listening to my endless waffle
Jamie
and still there when brakes applied!!!
Look's like i'm doing my kingpin's soon for the first time
should be an experiance!!
Martin,
I am hoping to do it the last week in Jan hopefully you hould have
some stock by then, If not, can i pinch your spare??
Thank's for everyone's input on this.
Just one more question, do i need to take off the 4 pinned
nut
on the bearing as i don't have the tool, or does the hub slide
off with the bearing still in place??
Thank's for listening to my endless waffle
Jamie
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18 Jan 2010 13:52 #1923
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re:Greasy Rim!!!!!!
Jamie,
Should be back in stock by Friday, they are expected at my supplier this afternoon.
Martin
Should be back in stock by Friday, they are expected at my supplier this afternoon.
Martin
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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19 Jan 2010 14:38 #1940
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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Now on the overnight courier to me, so they are "in-stock"
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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19 Jan 2010 15:01 #1941
by Jamie
Replied by Jamie on topic Re:Greasy Rim!!!!!!
Cool,
Thank's Martin i will get some ordered soon
Thank's
Jamie
Thank's Martin i will get some ordered soon
Thank's
Jamie
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19 Jan 2010 19:58 #1945
by Garry
Replied by Garry on topic Re:Greasy Rim!!!!!!
jamie, you can take the complete hub off, makes it super easy to change the kinpins
hub of, kinpins changed and hub back on in 30mins
hub of, kinpins changed and hub back on in 30mins
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20 Jan 2010 16:52 #1947
by richard
Replied by richard on topic Re:Greasy Rim!!!!!!
when i did mine a rang dealer 1st and they said i had to get a new hub bolt if i took hub off and they was 40quid so i did it without just cut the seal put it round the hub the supa glue back together. that worked.... how easy is it to take hub off
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