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Perhaps this is why Suzuki have dropped the Jimny
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28 Jul 2024 21:42 #256991
by Roger Fairclough
Replied by Roger Fairclough on topic Perhaps this is why Suzuki have dropped the Jimny
The last time I toured Scotland in the SJ I never let my tank drop below half way due to the lack of fuel stations. As I don't see charging points popping up like weeds in a lawn, any idea of touring Scotland in a car with a theoretical range of 200 miles will see you grow grey hairs faster than Charles 1st waiting for the axe.
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29 Jul 2024 10:54 #256995
by fordem
What is the projected battery lifespan?
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We have 12 solar panels on the roof and a 11kWh battery bank. Over the course of a year we expect to generate 3,600kWh, much more in summer than in winter. Our payback is about 9 years, after that everything we generate is for nothing, we are 2 1/4 years in. Or look at it another way, it’s return on investment is about 11% per year.
What is the projected battery lifespan?
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29 Jul 2024 12:18 #256996
by DrRobin
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
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Northumberland Jimny Blog
Replied by DrRobin on topic Perhaps this is why Suzuki have dropped the Jimny
6,000 cycles to 90%, that is 16 years if it is once per day (which it typically is) and they are guaranteed for 10 years.
We don't dip below 50% charge in the summer, so we might get more than 6,000 cycles before they degrade. There is two battery banks, so it would be fairly easy to change one out if it went faulty.
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We don't dip below 50% charge in the summer, so we might get more than 6,000 cycles before they degrade. There is two battery banks, so it would be fairly easy to change one out if it went faulty.
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2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog
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29 Jul 2024 18:16 #256998
by Paul4A
1999 T registered Jimny. Early G13BB SOHC engine.
Replied by Paul4A on topic Perhaps this is why Suzuki have dropped the Jimny
While there’s definitely less public rapid chargers up there, there’s plenty of people who do the NC500 in an EV as issues are largely part of the anti EV hype. Here’s a four year old video of someone doing it in a BMW i3, a car that was sold as a city car with a moderate range and which ceased being made a couple of years ago.
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29 Jul 2024 18:21 #256999
by Paul4A
1999 T registered Jimny. Early G13BB SOHC engine.
Replied by Paul4A on topic Perhaps this is why Suzuki have dropped the Jimny
And on the original comments re Ford EV’s, if they are selling them off cheaply then it’s probably because they’re not very good. Let’s face it they make the Mustang which is large and not as good as the competition. They’ve now got the new Explorer which is also large and based upon the VW iD7 platform. As one EV commentator on YouTube says, legacy car companies haven’t done great so far in making EV’s, compared to those who started from scratch.
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29 Jul 2024 18:52 #257000
by Paul4A
1999 T registered Jimny. Early G13BB SOHC engine.
Replied by Paul4A on topic Perhaps this is why Suzuki have dropped the Jimny
To add, when I first did the NC500 about 35 years ago I was surprised to find one village petrol station had a hand wound petrol pump. I’d not seen one before. When I last did the NC500 seven years ago we had five overnight stays. I looked a little while ago and one no longer offers B&B but two of the remaining four now have home chargers for customer overnight charging. That’s absolutely ideal for NC500 drivers. The moral is, times move on and things change to meet demand.
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30 Jul 2024 06:40 #257007
by Hughes
Replied by Hughes on topic Perhaps this is why Suzuki have dropped the Jimny
I didn't realise Suzuki UK is winding up Jimny sales. What a pity.
Suzuki New Zealand threatened to leave NZ completely due to a "clean car standard" the last government introduced, and thankfully the new one has repealed. Basically it required car makers to have their entire range below a certain emission level, which meant suzuki would be forced put of the country as they didn't have an EV / hybrid at the time to offset the rest of their ICE offerings. Kind of stupid considering they made some of the most energy efficient ICE vehicles you can buy here. My local suzuki dealer actually started importing and is now a dealer for some random chinese EV brand as well, jaecoo I believe they are, as a result of this legislation. Now that its been repealed, I'm not sure if they will continue this or not.
Suzuki New Zealand threatened to leave NZ completely due to a "clean car standard" the last government introduced, and thankfully the new one has repealed. Basically it required car makers to have their entire range below a certain emission level, which meant suzuki would be forced put of the country as they didn't have an EV / hybrid at the time to offset the rest of their ICE offerings. Kind of stupid considering they made some of the most energy efficient ICE vehicles you can buy here. My local suzuki dealer actually started importing and is now a dealer for some random chinese EV brand as well, jaecoo I believe they are, as a result of this legislation. Now that its been repealed, I'm not sure if they will continue this or not.
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09 Sep 2024 11:53 #257479
by DrRobin
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I know Suzuki have official said that they are focussing on EVs (and hybrids) in the short term, but just seen this about Volvo, they have abandoned their plans to offer only EV by 2030.
highways-news.com/volvo-abandons-plans-t...ectric-cars-by-2030/
I am sure they are not alone.
highways-news.com/volvo-abandons-plans-t...ectric-cars-by-2030/
I am sure they are not alone.
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09 Sep 2024 12:36 #257480
by fordem
They are not - quite a few manufacturers have announced their intent to review their EV plans.
I probably haven't voiced my opinion here, but the manufacturers plans to move to EV are driven by government mandates which are simply put impractical - mass EV adoption will require a complete revamp of the country's electric power infrastructure, additional generating capacity along with a complete refresh of the transmission & distribution networks, and all it's doing for the environment is moving the emissions from the vehicle tailpipe to the power stations smokestack. In a number of cases emissions are likely to increase because a vehicle burning petrol is cleaner than a coal fired power generator.
Replied by fordem on topic Perhaps this is why Suzuki have dropped the Jimny
I am sure they are not alone.
They are not - quite a few manufacturers have announced their intent to review their EV plans.
I probably haven't voiced my opinion here, but the manufacturers plans to move to EV are driven by government mandates which are simply put impractical - mass EV adoption will require a complete revamp of the country's electric power infrastructure, additional generating capacity along with a complete refresh of the transmission & distribution networks, and all it's doing for the environment is moving the emissions from the vehicle tailpipe to the power stations smokestack. In a number of cases emissions are likely to increase because a vehicle burning petrol is cleaner than a coal fired power generator.
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09 Sep 2024 17:47 #257481
by jlines
Replied by jlines on topic Perhaps this is why Suzuki have dropped the Jimny
I've also seen some talk recently about electric cars getting taxed from 2025 as whilst the government has been pushing for more ev vehicles they aren't actually making any money from them and with all the problems they've got going on they need this money coming in so gradually electric cars are becoming even less appealing than they already are. If the government want EVs then they will have to invest heavily to bring the infrastructure in order for it to happen, make the cars more affordable, control the used car market values and support car manufacturers as they don't want to built something that doesn't sell well. I can't see this happening within their timeframe and perhaps even at all and this is why car manufactures are slamming on the brakes and giving up making cars till there's a clearer direction to go in.
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09 Sep 2024 17:47 #257482
by jlines
Replied by jlines on topic Perhaps this is why Suzuki have dropped the Jimny
I've also seen some talk recently about electric cars getting taxed from 2025 as whilst the government has been pushing for more ev vehicles they aren't actually making any money from them and with all the problems they've got going on they need this money coming in so gradually electric cars are becoming even less appealing than they already are. If the government want EVs then they will have to invest heavily to bring the infrastructure in order for it to happen, make the cars more affordable, control the used car market values and support car manufacturers as they don't want to built something that doesn't sell well. I can't see this happening within their timeframe and perhaps even at all and this is why car manufactures are slamming on the brakes and giving up making cars till there's a clearer direction to go in.
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