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Advice on respraying / wrapping Gen 3 Jimny
07 Jun 2023 07:36 - 07 Jun 2023 07:37 #249447
by neffy33
Advice on respraying / wrapping Gen 3 Jimny was created by neffy33
Hi Everyone
I am looking to completely change the colour of the red Jimmy I purchased .
It maybe advisable to get it resprayed by a body shop but I don't have a extra 1k to spare for this to happen.
Maybe wrapping would be cheaper ?
In the spirit of doing things myself i would like some advise on the processes of respraying/ wrapping and what i need to do to prep my vehicle .
If there is anyone out there who has done this to their vehicle that would be a great help or if there is anyone who would like to help me that would be greatly appreciated.
I am located in Birmingjam .
I am looking to completely change the colour of the red Jimmy I purchased .
It maybe advisable to get it resprayed by a body shop but I don't have a extra 1k to spare for this to happen.
Maybe wrapping would be cheaper ?
In the spirit of doing things myself i would like some advise on the processes of respraying/ wrapping and what i need to do to prep my vehicle .
If there is anyone out there who has done this to their vehicle that would be a great help or if there is anyone who would like to help me that would be greatly appreciated.
I am located in Birmingjam .
Last edit: 07 Jun 2023 07:37 by neffy33.
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07 Jun 2023 09:52 #249448
by Scimike
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
Replied by Scimike on topic Advice on respraying / wrapping Gen 3 Jimny
Do you have access to a building in which you can spray and the equipment?
Not saying you can't spray outdoors, but it makes the job a lot harder if you need to deal with the elements.
What are your expectations, show room perfect or its a just different colour?
Have you considered a roller application, I did my series land-rover this way, looks like a cheap respray. Easy to do in limited space and you don't waste much paint so about as cheap as it gets.
Not saying you can't spray outdoors, but it makes the job a lot harder if you need to deal with the elements.
What are your expectations, show room perfect or its a just different colour?
Have you considered a roller application, I did my series land-rover this way, looks like a cheap respray. Easy to do in limited space and you don't waste much paint so about as cheap as it gets.
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
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07 Jun 2023 10:10 #249449
by 300bhpton
Wrapping is usually expensive. Maybe £5k.... cheap jobs always look dreadful with bubble, lifting edges and just a bit crap really. At least any I've seen. I'd also suggest a wrap is best on a car used infrequently and probably garaged. Off roading might well lead to other issues with a wrap.
Its a nice idea conceptually, but its only real benefit is being a temporary colour change you can revert or do again in a different colour.
I'm sire there are people with wrapped cars that will claim no issues. But I'm willing to bet they are either an exception or it cost a lot.
As for paintwork, well it is a dark art and the majority of work is in the prep. So it really depends on what sort of finish you are after. You'll also find a big variance in prices, which may not reflect overall quality of work either. Big companies doing lots of insurance work will generally be very expensive and often poor quality. A bloke in a shed might well do a cash deal for far less with much better finish. But it really depends.
You could paint yourself, but in reality getting anywhere close to a showroom finish is likely impossible. Doesn't mean you can't get an acceptable 10 foot finish (i.e. standing 10 feet away it looks perfectly fine). But again a lot will depend on this.
Rattle cans, brush, roller are all options at home. Or a proper spray gun. Lots of different types of paint too.
Replied by 300bhpton on topic Advice on respraying / wrapping Gen 3 Jimny
Hi Everyone
I am looking to completely change the colour of the red Jimmy I purchased .
It maybe advisable to get it resprayed by a body shop but I don't have a extra 1k to spare for this to happen.
Maybe wrapping would be cheaper ?
In the spirit of doing things myself i would like some advise on the processes of respraying/ wrapping and what i need to do to prep my vehicle .
If there is anyone out there who has done this to their vehicle that would be a great help or if there is anyone who would like to help me that would be greatly appreciated.
I am located in Birmingjam .
Wrapping is usually expensive. Maybe £5k.... cheap jobs always look dreadful with bubble, lifting edges and just a bit crap really. At least any I've seen. I'd also suggest a wrap is best on a car used infrequently and probably garaged. Off roading might well lead to other issues with a wrap.
Its a nice idea conceptually, but its only real benefit is being a temporary colour change you can revert or do again in a different colour.
I'm sire there are people with wrapped cars that will claim no issues. But I'm willing to bet they are either an exception or it cost a lot.
As for paintwork, well it is a dark art and the majority of work is in the prep. So it really depends on what sort of finish you are after. You'll also find a big variance in prices, which may not reflect overall quality of work either. Big companies doing lots of insurance work will generally be very expensive and often poor quality. A bloke in a shed might well do a cash deal for far less with much better finish. But it really depends.
You could paint yourself, but in reality getting anywhere close to a showroom finish is likely impossible. Doesn't mean you can't get an acceptable 10 foot finish (i.e. standing 10 feet away it looks perfectly fine). But again a lot will depend on this.
Rattle cans, brush, roller are all options at home. Or a proper spray gun. Lots of different types of paint too.
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07 Jun 2023 12:41 - 07 Jun 2023 12:45 #249450
by neffy33
Replied by neffy33 on topic Advice on respraying / wrapping Gen 3 Jimny
Hi
Thank you both for getting back to me so promptly .
Currently i do not have immediate access to a garage space.
I am not looking for a showroom finish but just turning my red jimny to preferably to tiffany blue.
I haven't considered a roller application but it seems rattle to be more feasible as i have had some experience with these ( but i would need a garage for this for sure)
( i have just watched this guy using combicolour)
Would i need to prime the paint after sanding ?
Thank you both for getting back to me so promptly .
Currently i do not have immediate access to a garage space.
I am not looking for a showroom finish but just turning my red jimny to preferably to tiffany blue.
I haven't considered a roller application but it seems rattle to be more feasible as i have had some experience with these ( but i would need a garage for this for sure)
( i have just watched this guy using combicolour)
Would i need to prime the paint after sanding ?
Last edit: 07 Jun 2023 12:45 by neffy33.
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07 Jun 2023 13:17 #249451
by DrRobin
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog
Replied by DrRobin on topic Advice on respraying / wrapping Gen 3 Jimny
I have just done a bit of spraying on my other vehicle and sprayed a panel on my Jimny last year. I used to use rattle cans, then had a proper spray gun for a while and now use a small compressor and spray pencil which is what I have used for the last few years.
I don't have enough space to get a vehicle inside, it's very hit and miss spraying outside, even a small area needs a real good day, not to mention preparation. After spraying I cut back and polish the finish before applying lacquer, it takes forever, like several days.
Personally I wouldn't attempt a whole car, it would take me too long masking off and buffing later and changing from one strong colour to another (red to blue) is going to take several coats.
One of my pals used a roller with a 2-part epoxy varnish on a boat, the end result was stunning, like it was sprayed, but he has been a boat builder for years and his brush work is also superb.
I haven't tried wrapping a car, I have used vinyl wraps with some success but only on small areas and I did it inside in a clean dry environment.
Hope it works out for you, I am not sure any of these finishes are as easy to do as they look in the Youtube vids.
Robin
I don't have enough space to get a vehicle inside, it's very hit and miss spraying outside, even a small area needs a real good day, not to mention preparation. After spraying I cut back and polish the finish before applying lacquer, it takes forever, like several days.
Personally I wouldn't attempt a whole car, it would take me too long masking off and buffing later and changing from one strong colour to another (red to blue) is going to take several coats.
One of my pals used a roller with a 2-part epoxy varnish on a boat, the end result was stunning, like it was sprayed, but he has been a boat builder for years and his brush work is also superb.
I haven't tried wrapping a car, I have used vinyl wraps with some success but only on small areas and I did it inside in a clean dry environment.
Hope it works out for you, I am not sure any of these finishes are as easy to do as they look in the Youtube vids.
Robin
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog
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07 Jun 2023 18:01 - 07 Jun 2023 18:05 #249452
by Scimike
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
Replied by Scimike on topic Advice on respraying / wrapping Gen 3 Jimny
Look at what you have available and factoring in cost I would use a roller.
It has the advantage you can easily do a panel at a time with minimal masking, no over spray to contend with.
Very little waste and no cleaning up, throw the cheap rollers away rather than trying to clean up etc.
Light sand to key the surface then throw on the top coat, 1k poly is very forgiving if it's applied to old paint. Any metal / rust will need priming etc.
Apply on cool days with little wind, the trick is you don't want it to dry quickly, this allows time for it it level out.
If you go this route talk to your paint supplier and tell them you are going to apply with a brush / roller, they will mix the paint for this application and extend its drying time.
Here is the finish, please keep in mind there's no attempt to cover up the 60 years of dents and bumps, just to turn it green.
I'll add it took about 3/4 ltr of paint to do this inside and out.
It has the advantage you can easily do a panel at a time with minimal masking, no over spray to contend with.
Very little waste and no cleaning up, throw the cheap rollers away rather than trying to clean up etc.
Light sand to key the surface then throw on the top coat, 1k poly is very forgiving if it's applied to old paint. Any metal / rust will need priming etc.
Apply on cool days with little wind, the trick is you don't want it to dry quickly, this allows time for it it level out.
If you go this route talk to your paint supplier and tell them you are going to apply with a brush / roller, they will mix the paint for this application and extend its drying time.
Here is the finish, please keep in mind there's no attempt to cover up the 60 years of dents and bumps, just to turn it green.
I'll add it took about 3/4 ltr of paint to do this inside and out.
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
Last edit: 07 Jun 2023 18:05 by Scimike.
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