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Advice on respraying / wrapping Gen 3 Jimny
07 Jun 2023 18:03 #249453
by facade
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic Advice on respraying / wrapping Gen 3 Jimny
My advice is to get used to the red. You can get used to anything after a while
I was forced into having a blue gen 4 (forced as in- "Do you want this one, or not have one at all?"- I really didn't want fluorescent yellow, Suzuki weren't importing green so I thought it would do), so I looked into wrapping (covering with fablon basically for us old boys ) and the lifespan is so short (3-5 years maximum if kept outside) that it would be a total waste of money, plus there is so much bare metal showing on a gen 4 that it would look stupid from in the driving seat to be sat inside a blue car painted/wrapped in jungle green.
Changing the colour with a respray means stripping the whole car out to paint everything visible in the new colour, door shuts, round the windows, under the back seats, round the edges of the seatbelt attachments and console.
Luckily with a gen 3, Suzuki didn't cheap out on the internal trim like the gen 4, and most of the interior is covered, but it is still a big job.
If you must go ahead, maybe brush painting would be best, as you can do the interior parts a little at a time to avoid having to strip out all the interior and keep it somewhere away from the paint overspray.
Tekaloid used to be the standard brush paint for cars, it is still available, but it takes hours and hours to touch dry, so you can't do it outside, unless you like a furry finish covered in dead flies (they are attracted to the colour and solvent in the paint and will dance all over it), flower petals, dust & grit etc.
I was forced into having a blue gen 4 (forced as in- "Do you want this one, or not have one at all?"- I really didn't want fluorescent yellow, Suzuki weren't importing green so I thought it would do), so I looked into wrapping (covering with fablon basically for us old boys ) and the lifespan is so short (3-5 years maximum if kept outside) that it would be a total waste of money, plus there is so much bare metal showing on a gen 4 that it would look stupid from in the driving seat to be sat inside a blue car painted/wrapped in jungle green.
Changing the colour with a respray means stripping the whole car out to paint everything visible in the new colour, door shuts, round the windows, under the back seats, round the edges of the seatbelt attachments and console.
Luckily with a gen 3, Suzuki didn't cheap out on the internal trim like the gen 4, and most of the interior is covered, but it is still a big job.
If you must go ahead, maybe brush painting would be best, as you can do the interior parts a little at a time to avoid having to strip out all the interior and keep it somewhere away from the paint overspray.
Tekaloid used to be the standard brush paint for cars, it is still available, but it takes hours and hours to touch dry, so you can't do it outside, unless you like a furry finish covered in dead flies (they are attracted to the colour and solvent in the paint and will dance all over it), flower petals, dust & grit etc.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
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09 Jun 2023 08:34 #249475
by neffy33
Replied by neffy33 on topic Advice on respraying / wrapping Gen 3 Jimny
i wish i could get use to the red but upon further exception of my vehicle the paint work is already flaking off due to age ( 04 reg).
So parts are vibrate red and others are not as the top coat that gives it that sheen has already come off.
Went to a local paint job . Guy at the counter advised me that enamel paint would do the job and that he can mix any variety i wanted .
But he advised i sand the car down and apply a primer if i want to achieve a more smoother look.
Quoted me 120 for both 2.5l of paint and primer.
He also said that i should use 800 grit paper to lightly remove the paint work but you guys are right it is a big job .
I may start with 1200 grit and sand down the hard areas by hand and see then use a DA sander if i can find someone who has one .
So parts are vibrate red and others are not as the top coat that gives it that sheen has already come off.
Went to a local paint job . Guy at the counter advised me that enamel paint would do the job and that he can mix any variety i wanted .
But he advised i sand the car down and apply a primer if i want to achieve a more smoother look.
Quoted me 120 for both 2.5l of paint and primer.
He also said that i should use 800 grit paper to lightly remove the paint work but you guys are right it is a big job .
I may start with 1200 grit and sand down the hard areas by hand and see then use a DA sander if i can find someone who has one .
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09 Jun 2023 09:54 - 09 Jun 2023 09:56 #249478
by facade
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic Advice on respraying / wrapping Gen 3 Jimny
There will be plenty of youtube videos on painting a car.
You rub the paint down with wet wet 'n dry paper, as the man said 600 grit will do (bigger number is finer) to remove any flaking areas and give the paint a key, then wipe with super clean cloth (you can buy a roll of a fabric cloth for this) to remove the dried residue and daub your paint on.
You can wipe with pre-paint (degreaser/cleaner) immediately before you start painting if you want, I've never bothered tbh, but it will remove the last of the sanding dust too.
Don't work on a windy or spectacularly hot day- you don't want the paint to dry too quickly as you want the brushmarks to level out.
Don't put it on too thick either- it will run and look awful.
The correct primer will help it stick, and make the colour even, as some colours are a bit transparent so the underneath shows and changes the colour slightly.
Buy some decent brushes, not the 99p each or £5 a set ones, the hairs just fall out and stick in the paint!
You rub the paint down with wet wet 'n dry paper, as the man said 600 grit will do (bigger number is finer) to remove any flaking areas and give the paint a key, then wipe with super clean cloth (you can buy a roll of a fabric cloth for this) to remove the dried residue and daub your paint on.
You can wipe with pre-paint (degreaser/cleaner) immediately before you start painting if you want, I've never bothered tbh, but it will remove the last of the sanding dust too.
Don't work on a windy or spectacularly hot day- you don't want the paint to dry too quickly as you want the brushmarks to level out.
Don't put it on too thick either- it will run and look awful.
The correct primer will help it stick, and make the colour even, as some colours are a bit transparent so the underneath shows and changes the colour slightly.
Buy some decent brushes, not the 99p each or £5 a set ones, the hairs just fall out and stick in the paint!
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Last edit: 09 Jun 2023 09:56 by facade.
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09 Jun 2023 10:18 #249480
by 300bhpton
Some paint and colours will go white with age when they haven't been looked after. Red is often one of these, a good cut and mop and it'd likely come up looking like new.
Replied by 300bhpton on topic Advice on respraying / wrapping Gen 3 Jimny
Are you sure it is really flaking off? 2004 is not really very old for a vehicle tbh.i wish i could get use to the red but upon further exception of my vehicle the paint work is already flaking off due to age ( 04 reg).
So parts are vibrate red and others are not as the top coat that gives it that sheen has already come off.
Some paint and colours will go white with age when they haven't been looked after. Red is often one of these, a good cut and mop and it'd likely come up looking like new.
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09 Jun 2023 14:46 #249483
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Replied by jackonlyjack on topic Advice on respraying / wrapping Gen 3 Jimny
I bet you could paint it with upol raptor for that sort of money
Take a look on here
www.buzzweld.co.uk/
Craig owner is very helpful
Tell him how you want to paint it on roller or brush
Take a look on here
www.buzzweld.co.uk/
Craig owner is very helpful
Tell him how you want to paint it on roller or brush
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11 Jun 2023 13:01 #249499
by Rabid Rhino
Looking for a nice clean and straight LHD Jimny..... Not any more.
Got one that seems to have been magnatized and driven through the "Big Jimny Bits" parts stores too quickly so it missed a few items.
Replied by Rabid Rhino on topic Advice on respraying / wrapping Gen 3 Jimny
You could look into plastic dip, if it's still a thing.
Spray on, peel off.
loads if vids on yourube.
Spray on, peel off.
loads if vids on yourube.
Looking for a nice clean and straight LHD Jimny..... Not any more.
Got one that seems to have been magnatized and driven through the "Big Jimny Bits" parts stores too quickly so it missed a few items.
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