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Sump pan - suitable RTV
05 Jan 2025 07:10 - 05 Jan 2025 07:14 #258983
by yakuza
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Replied by yakuza on topic Sump pan - suitable RTV
Permatex is used at work in the factory professionally, some loctite products too.
For lids, hatches, housings, flanges..
Sometimes special gaskoid paper gaskets but still with Permatex.
But I am pretty sure it is Black.
But any rtv gasket silicone should do, Havent had any leaks from those at home on my cars on flanges and housings and I buy cheap stuff.
Cleaned and scraped and buffed with scotchbrite before applying the sealant.
For lids, hatches, housings, flanges..
Sometimes special gaskoid paper gaskets but still with Permatex.
But I am pretty sure it is Black.
But any rtv gasket silicone should do, Havent had any leaks from those at home on my cars on flanges and housings and I buy cheap stuff.
Cleaned and scraped and buffed with scotchbrite before applying the sealant.
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Last edit: 05 Jan 2025 07:14 by yakuza.
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05 Jan 2025 09:38 #258986
by Motacilla
Ordinary RTV silicone cannot take even the slightest exposure to solvents like petrol. So when it comes to engine work, one has to pick a silicone goo that is appropriately formulated to resist petrol.
Permatex Black (sometimes called Permatex Right Stuff) is the correct product for the oil pan. It will be a bear to get the pan back off again, but it will surely not leak.
I used to do a lot of early Porsche motors. Air-cooled engines piddle like your neighbour lady's toy dog, so one has to have a brace of top-quality, job-specific sealants to hand. Or to put it differently, pick a sealant that doesn't fully work and the spots on the drive remind you for years.
Replied by Motacilla on topic Sump pan - suitable RTV
I never thought it would happen, but I have to disagree with @yakuza.But any rtv gasket silicone should do,
Ordinary RTV silicone cannot take even the slightest exposure to solvents like petrol. So when it comes to engine work, one has to pick a silicone goo that is appropriately formulated to resist petrol.
Permatex Black (sometimes called Permatex Right Stuff) is the correct product for the oil pan. It will be a bear to get the pan back off again, but it will surely not leak.
I used to do a lot of early Porsche motors. Air-cooled engines piddle like your neighbour lady's toy dog, so one has to have a brace of top-quality, job-specific sealants to hand. Or to put it differently, pick a sealant that doesn't fully work and the spots on the drive remind you for years.
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06 Jan 2025 17:46 #259016
by jackonlyjack
Replied by jackonlyjack on topic Sump pan - suitable RTV
I agree with Lambert
For the fact the powder coat /paint on the new pan may fail over time
You could always go round with some paint when rtv is cured
For the fact the powder coat /paint on the new pan may fail over time
You could always go round with some paint when rtv is cured
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06 Jan 2025 21:13 #259017
by yakuza
Oh I love getting arrested when it is like this.
Funny but my collegues who do the building of the machines also do the later service and if needed dismantling. And they like the Permatex because it seals good, leaves you time to put it together right before it cures, and can be dismantled easy. Or so they say.
But back to the arrest. When I read your reply and thought about it I cant think of any time I have used RTV where there is fuel. Cant think of any of my cars that have leaked much fuel either.
So you are of course correct.
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Replied by yakuza on topic Sump pan - suitable RTV
I never thought it would happen, but I have to disagree with @yakuza.But any rtv gasket silicone should do,
Ordinary RTV silicone cannot take even the slightest exposure to solvents like petrol. So when it comes to engine work, one has to pick a silicone goo that is appropriately formulated to resist petrol.
Permatex Black (sometimes called Permatex Right Stuff) is the correct product for the oil pan. It will be a bear to get the pan back off again, but it will surely not leak.
I used to do a lot of early Porsche motors. Air-cooled engines piddle like your neighbour lady's toy dog, so one has to have a brace of top-quality, job-specific sealants to hand. Or to put it differently, pick a sealant that doesn't fully work and the spots on the drive remind you for years.
Oh I love getting arrested when it is like this.
Funny but my collegues who do the building of the machines also do the later service and if needed dismantling. And they like the Permatex because it seals good, leaves you time to put it together right before it cures, and can be dismantled easy. Or so they say.
But back to the arrest. When I read your reply and thought about it I cant think of any time I have used RTV where there is fuel. Cant think of any of my cars that have leaked much fuel either.
So you are of course correct.
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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