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Strange oil color in the front diff.
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29 Mar 2022 16:25 #242556
by KitKat
Replied by KitKat on topic Strange oil color in the front diff.
Thank you Roger.
According to the parts written the receipt the mechanic used with OEM suzuki parts. so the seal is oem part.
Yesterday when i replaced the diff.oil I have checked the breather by insert pipe in the same size of the filler plug and I pushed air with my mouth,The air came out through the breather and when I pressed it the air did not come out anymore.
the past life of the car is the first and second car owners were women in small city,I believe they only drove on the road, home->work->home.
The third owner a young guy who did take him to the off road a bit ... easy trails and some mud.
The car only with 100k kilometer. (I purchased at 99K) the model is 2008.
According to the parts written the receipt the mechanic used with OEM suzuki parts. so the seal is oem part.
Yesterday when i replaced the diff.oil I have checked the breather by insert pipe in the same size of the filler plug and I pushed air with my mouth,The air came out through the breather and when I pressed it the air did not come out anymore.
the past life of the car is the first and second car owners were women in small city,I believe they only drove on the road, home->work->home.
The third owner a young guy who did take him to the off road a bit ... easy trails and some mud.
The car only with 100k kilometer. (I purchased at 99K) the model is 2008.
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29 Mar 2022 17:51 #242557
by Lambert
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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Replied by Lambert on topic Strange oil color in the front diff.
That diff oil has had water contamination at some point though not lots and lots. As you have had the kingpin bearings done because of leaking swivel seals and the previous owner has been out playing with it then these two things in conjunction will give contamination of the oil. It's easy enough to run another bottle of oil through it to clean it, oil is still cheap despite recent world event especially compared to a full diff rebuild. One question, when you took the oil out first time did it sparkle and glint like there was any metal in it? I doubt there would be but if there was that's not good.
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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29 Mar 2022 19:25 #242558
by Scimike
Yokohama Geolanders, Sony head unit, NAUTILUS Air Horn, DRL conversion, Rear cargo space, Elvis Bobblehead, transfer Guard, Indian hanging Elephant, Koni Heavy track dampers, Custom SS exhaust, Voodoo Doll, Adventure Rack with LED ight bar, vintage ERIBA caravan usually attached (yes it's slow)
Replied by Scimike on topic Strange oil color in the front diff.
My opinion just to add to the conversation.
Just change the oil, no need to clean the axle out etc. But of course fix any leaks first, after all it's letting your oil out and contamination in.
As Roger said check the breath caps are operating, if they are blocked they can cause leaks.
Simply, in use the axle warms up and should vent to atmosphere as the air expands. If it can't vent via the caps it pushes oil past the oil seal to achieve the same. If your seals are worn dunking a hot axle in water (as u off-road) can also cause the air to contract, the vacuum in the axle then sucks oil / water / grease back past the seals from your probably shot swivels. They are usually rusty and full of water
Just for the vote I also think it's water in the oil, with just a hint of grease.
Just change the oil, no need to clean the axle out etc. But of course fix any leaks first, after all it's letting your oil out and contamination in.
As Roger said check the breath caps are operating, if they are blocked they can cause leaks.
Simply, in use the axle warms up and should vent to atmosphere as the air expands. If it can't vent via the caps it pushes oil past the oil seal to achieve the same. If your seals are worn dunking a hot axle in water (as u off-road) can also cause the air to contract, the vacuum in the axle then sucks oil / water / grease back past the seals from your probably shot swivels. They are usually rusty and full of water
Just for the vote I also think it's water in the oil, with just a hint of grease.
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30 Mar 2022 03:28 - 05 Apr 2022 16:59 #242561
by Lambert
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
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Replied by Lambert on topic Strange oil color in the front diff.
If and it's a big if, the front swivel has been correctly assembled and maintained the only grease will be that small amount in the kingpin bearings and the slightly larger amount in the moving parts of the CV joint. The actual chalice of the swivel should not have any grease in it certainly not in the quantity that would be required to contaminate the axle oil behind even failing seals. It is however quite common for none specialists to assume that the challis be packed full of grease as this is a common attribute of other vehicles.
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Last edit: 05 Apr 2022 16:59 by Lambert. Reason: Spelling
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30 Mar 2022 06:40 #242565
by Busta
Replied by Busta on topic Strange oil color in the front diff.
In 2wd, drive to the front wheels is disconnected at the transfer case and the hubs, therefore the diff is stationary and inactive for normal road driving.
I've never heard or seen a single instance of the grease contamination Roger is taking about on a Jimny. I can't see how it would be possible for oil to escape, mix with grease and then somehow get back into the axle in a quantity large enough to change the colour of a litre of oil. However I have seen many many instances of water in the diff oil, and the solution is always a simple oil change.
I've never heard or seen a single instance of the grease contamination Roger is taking about on a Jimny. I can't see how it would be possible for oil to escape, mix with grease and then somehow get back into the axle in a quantity large enough to change the colour of a litre of oil. However I have seen many many instances of water in the diff oil, and the solution is always a simple oil change.
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05 Apr 2022 11:02 #242741
by louchy
2003 '53 Jimny JLX Mode
2" Suspension Lift
Modular Steel Wheels + Manual Hubs
BFG MT's
ARB Delete
Breathers (Diffs, Transfer Box, Gearbox)
Raptor 4x4 Snorkel
Jimnybits Armour (Diffs, Transfer Box, Fuel Tank, Shock Mounts, Rad Arms)
Front & Rear Recovery Points
Front & Rear Lightbars
Replied by louchy on topic Strange oil color in the front diff.
It seems like the previous owner liked to go swimming in his Jimny
Definitely looks like contamination with water / mud.... Change the Diff oil, and if you also like to go swimming fit some breathers to the diffs, transfer box and gearbox if possible.
This seems a decent kit for the diffs from a BigJimny member: Suzuki Jimny axle / diff Breather Kit extend your breathers to the snorkel head | eBay
Definitely looks like contamination with water / mud.... Change the Diff oil, and if you also like to go swimming fit some breathers to the diffs, transfer box and gearbox if possible.
This seems a decent kit for the diffs from a BigJimny member: Suzuki Jimny axle / diff Breather Kit extend your breathers to the snorkel head | eBay
2003 '53 Jimny JLX Mode
2" Suspension Lift
Modular Steel Wheels + Manual Hubs
BFG MT's
ARB Delete
Breathers (Diffs, Transfer Box, Gearbox)
Raptor 4x4 Snorkel
Jimnybits Armour (Diffs, Transfer Box, Fuel Tank, Shock Mounts, Rad Arms)
Front & Rear Recovery Points
Front & Rear Lightbars
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