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2006 Jimny Clutch Release Bearing

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10 Apr 2021 01:41 #234365 by fordem

LM42 wrote: you can change the clutch without removing the gearbox from the car, i did my brothers and mine, never did a clutch before!
 


Was this on a Jimny or any other front engined, rear wheel drive car?  Nine times out of ten, the clutch sits between the engne and the gearbox, and one or the other has to be removed to get access to the clutch, so, yes, you can change the clutch without removing the gearbox from the car, but nine out of ten times, the only way it can be done is by removing the engine.

The gearbox is usally easier to remove, so that's the most common way to deal with it.

Having said that, I've changed several clutches without removing either the gearbox or the engine from the car, but everytime I've done it the vehicle in question was a classic Mini or one of it's derivatives which have the gearbox below the engine and the clutch outboard from the two.

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10 Apr 2021 08:28 #234368 by Roger Fairclough
On a personal note, I would always remove the g/box (Jimny style set up) as this would give me free access to the flywheel and the bellhousing for checking and cleaning.
It's a possibility that Suzuki improved or modified the two retention springs in the light of reported noise problems. Minor improvements such as this may not require a change in part number.

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10 Apr 2021 08:50 #234369 by Lambert
It's possible to detach the gearbox from the motor but not actually remove it from the car, it has some room to move back enough to get at the clutch. That said when mine was done the engine was coming out anyway to do the head gasket at the same time.

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10 Apr 2021 11:40 #234370 by Groundworker
Replied by Groundworker on topic 2006 Jimny Clutch Release Bearing
You can get the gearbox out, once you've removed the clutch, I had my gearbox rebuilt, so had to remove it. Admittedly I did mine with the car on its side, very easy, wouldn't recommend for a gen 4

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11 Apr 2021 00:55 #234387 by fordem

Lambert wrote: It's possible to detach the gearbox from the motor but not actually remove it from the car, it has some room to move back enough to get at the clutch. That said when mine was done the engine was coming out anyway to do the head gasket at the same time.

We're splitting hairs here - at this point the gearbox is not attached to the vehicle in any way is it?

It's completely unbolted from the mounts, the jack shaft has been removed, the shift linkages disconnected - if you remove whatever is supporting it, it's going to fall to the ground.

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11 Apr 2021 07:40 #234388 by Davemc
I think the debate is just about what needs to be removed to do what.
When removing the gearbox it has to go straight backwards to get the gearbox shaft out of the clutch. At this point the rear of the gearbox is then above and behind the cross member. It won't drop out because the rear of the gearbox is nearly wedged in above the cross member. There is enough room to remove the clutch at this point and it seems you have to if you want the gerbox out. Fig.19 in the Guide. If you move the gearbox forward without removing the clutch it will not drop because the bell housing not drop past the clutch housing. When the clutch is removed the gearbox can be moved forward again so that the rear of the gearbox can drop past the cross member. It's still a little tight since the bell housing needs to very close the flywheel but now it will drop down past the space where the clutch was mounted.
I bolted the gearbox back on yesterday. Same in reverse. With the clutch off raise the gearbox up and push it back above the cross member. There is plenty of room to install the clutch. Then push the gearbox forwards into clutch and bolt onto the engine.
That's the only way I can see.
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Dave

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