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To satisfy my curiosity I decided to look at x-shock dakar site. In their video of a Jimny with the e-locker, they showed the switch. It is the LR (WMD) locker that they sell. The WMD site is:
WMD E-Locker
If you want a locker with a helical gear LSD, either here or through Busta's link would be the source. Busta's link appears to show the locker for a better price.
For the TRE you can contact them through this site:
TRE 4X4
For something in the price range of the Alibaba locker I would recommend the HF here:
HF E-Locker
I don't have any experience with the e-locker by HF but their airlocker gets a lot of work here in the Philippines. Haven't heard of any problems. You can also find a couple of HF locker reviews on Youtube. If you scan through some of the later pages in the "What Did The Postman Bring Today" thread, there was a memebr here that bought the HF e-locker. I think he is in Russia. You might pm him and see if he has any feedback.
Edit: The HF E-Locker was mentioned in the "What Did I Do To My Jimny Today" thread. The member was g r e e n from Russia if you want to ask for feedback.
I started out with nothing & still have most of it left
Interesting that the WMD E-locker comes in an 8 bolt, 22 spline configuration. I assume that would work in the Jimny front diff. The only other lockers that are a direct fit in the front axle of a Jimny are ARB and Kaiser.
I do echo Yakuzas concerns about fitting a diff of unknown origin. As well as the cost of the unit itself, there is signifcant time and expense involved in fitting. Faulty units could soon become very costly. That's part of the reason I went with Quaife, who have a solid reputation and a lifetime warranty. If you're fitting the diff in the front this is slightly less of a concern as it is only used for a small fraction of the time and a broken diff can be isolated from the drivetrain with the transfer case and hubs.
Busta wrote: Interesting that the WMD E-locker comes in an 8 bolt, 22 spline configuration. I assume that would work in the Jimny front diff. The only other lockers that are a direct fit in the front axle of a Jimny are ARB and Kaiser.
I do echo Yakuzas concerns about fitting a diff of unknown origin. As well as the cost of the unit itself, there is signifcant time and expense involved in fitting. Faulty units could soon become very costly. That's part of the reason I went with Quaife, who have a solid reputation and a lifetime warranty. If you're fitting the diff in the front this is slightly less of a concern as it is only used for a small fraction of the time and a broken diff can be isolated from the drivetrain with the transfer case and hubs.
Interesting twist.
So if you can only fit one diff lock,
Front or Back and why ?
For offroading the most gain of traction with a 100% locking diff is the back.
Going up hill the most weight is put on the rear of the car. (if you drive forward)
For On-roading the most gain of traction and fun for an "active open" diff is the back as well.
I would say it depends on the type of locker you are installing and the type of driving you do.
If the majority of your driving is extreme off-road (e.g. pay and play toy), or you are fitting a selectable locker like the ARB or electric locker I would definitely put it in the back. You have complete control of when it engages, and otherwise they operate as an open or LSD differential which will not have any negative effect on day to day driving. The rear axle is mechanically stronger than the front (no CV joints) and the rear axle provides most of the drive going up hills.
On the other hand, auto lockers like lockrite and kaiser lockers can have some detrimental effects on on-road driving. They fundamentally change the way the drive is transmitted to the wheels and therefore how the car handles. They also double the maximum load on the drivetrain compnonents, so will cause accelerated wear. And in the case of the lockrite, the crude mechanism with lots of metal to metal contact has a limited life expectancy. For a daily driver/occasional off-road use they would be much better placed in the front axle, where they are only active when you engage 4wd. Combined with an LSD in the rear this would make a formidable combination on and off-road. This is the combination I'd like to have, but kasier lockers are prohbitively expensive and fitting a lockrite in the front axle requires machining a rear diff to fit. So I have another, budget freindly solution in mind that I will be making a sperate topic about soon....
This guy makes some interesting and valid points about how a locking each axle affects the way a car behaves off-road.
Busta wrote: I would say it depends on the type of locker you are installing and the type of driving you do.
If the majority of your driving is extreme off-road (e.g. pay and play toy), or you are fitting a selectable locker like the ARB or electric locker I would definitely put it in the back. You have complete control of when it engages, and otherwise they operate as an open or LSD differential which will not have any negative effect on day to day driving. The rear axle is mechanically stronger than the front (no CV joints) and the rear axle provides most of the drive going up hills.
On the other hand, auto lockers like lockrite and kaiser lockers can have some detrimental effects on on-road driving. They fundamentally change the way the drive is transmitted to the wheels and therefore how the car handles. They also double the maximum load on the drivetrain compnonents, so will cause accelerated wear. And in the case of the lockrite, the crude mechanism with lots of metal to metal contact has a limited life expectancy. For a daily driver/occasional off-road use they would be much better placed in the front axle, where they are only active when you engage 4wd. Combined with an LSD in the rear this would make a formidable combination on and off-road. This is the combination I'd like to have, but kasier lockers are prohbitively expensive and fitting a lockrite in the front axle requires machining a rear diff to fit. So I have another, budget freindly solution in mind that I will be making a sperate topic about soon....
This guy makes some interesting and valid points about how a locking each axle affects the way a car behaves off-road.
LOL
I was just about to post that video from Matt.
But yeah. It depends hugely on your kinda driving.
As an occasionall off road trail kinda driving I will really think about adding it front. (More into the overland)
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