Re:Re:Re:Lift kit & suspension for the JB74

crash486 wrote: ARB / OME is unique with a relocation bracket to alter the roll centre (reduce the head wobble effect) but increases oversteer .


crash486 JB74W

Curious. But what bracket do you speak of? Thanks.

crash486 wrote: Have to be careful when you say you want a lift for increased ground clearance. Suspension lift will give more body clearance on sills, slightly better angles and maybe the option to increase wheel diameter to give you more clearance under the low points like diff and radius arms.
Lift is predominantly about wheel size increase but if anything like Australia, you can only legally increase by a small fixed amount.

crash486 JB74W

Not sure I agree with this. A suspension lift will raise every part of the vehicle apart form the diffs/axles. A lot more clearance will be gotten from a lift. Improving approach/departure and break over angles.

Unless driving in deep ruts/tram lines the diffs are unlikely to be an issue. And if they are, there is really very little you can do about it anyway. The rest of the vehicle will
Be massively improved by lifting it a little when off road.

Unless the lift is accomplished at the expense of articulation by using strong springs to gain the height. A set of taller soft springs accompanied by dampers capable of controlling body movement without overly slowing suspension response times coupled with a set of moderately taller tyres with compensated gearing as necessary will make an incredibly capable Jimny in certainoff roadconditions. But it has to be considered as a whole package tailored to the specific needs of the user and the prevailing terrain. Otherwise you may as well stick with the standard arrangement that Suzuki have been developing as an all round capable system.

Lambert wrote: Otherwise you may as well stick with the standard arrangement that Suzuki have been developing as an all round capable system.

To an extent yes, just be prepared to hit the transfer box and radius mounting brackets quite a lot off road. As well as the front bumper. I'm sure a 2" lift would do wonders in this regard. But yes, only when fitted as an entire package to promote more travel, not restrict it.

300bhpton wrote:

crash486 wrote: ARB / OME is unique with a relocation bracket to alter the roll centre (reduce the head wobble effect) but increases oversteer .


crash486 JB74W

Curious. But what bracket do you speak of? Thanks.

OME do a pan hard relocation bracket. It raises the pan hard making it flatter slightly reducing the roll centre which allows them to use softer damping for a more comfortable ride.
It has been said that this gives an improvement compared to general stiffer shocks without a suspension geometry change.
It will still depend on how you use your Jimny if it's the one for you.

crash486 JB74W

crash486 wrote:

300bhpton wrote:

crash486 wrote: ARB / OME is unique with a relocation bracket to alter the roll centre (reduce the head wobble effect) but increases oversteer .


crash486 JB74W

Curious. But what bracket do you speak of? Thanks.

OME do a pan hard relocation bracket. It raises the pan hard making it flatter slightly reducing the roll centre which allows them to use softer damping for a more comfortable ride.
It has been said that this gives an improvement compared to general stiffer shocks without a suspension geometry change.
It will still depend on how you use your Jimny if it's the one for you.

crash486 JB74W

Thanks.

I assume you mean:

Panhard Rod Extension Bkt (FK96)

Although when you search the OME site it returns nothing, but lists it as Optional Extras for the Jimny lift kit. Not sure I put much faith in their website, as they also list an Extra Leaf also for the 2018+ Jimny.....

Surely this bracket however is just moving one end of the Panhard rod to re-centre the axle after a lift. Can't see how it has any effect on roll centre or ride quality??