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Ballast when towing?

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01 Feb 2024 06:53 #253935 by Lambert
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Hang on I've just reread that are you trying to twist my arm into buying a winch and steel bumper? Because if you are you need to stop, my arm is hurting!

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02 Feb 2024 18:29 #253976 by Roger Fairclough
Yes, I understand the van versus pick-up, a friend has a big panel van he uses to ship his kids moto-crosser from home to venue but that is on normal roads. If you need it to traverse dirt roads with there attendant twisters and holes a 4x4 pickup becomes a viable proposition.

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19 Feb 2024 22:52 #254459 by DrRobin
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So I know that the tow limit is 1,300kg if you have brakes on the trailer and only 350kg if no trailer brakes, so the lower limit is only under braking, but what is the limiting factor?

Is it because the standard Jimny brakes can only cope with an extra 350kg?

Or is it because above this the trailer would cause the Jimny to jack-knife or push the back down under braking?

The reason for asking is I have to move my boat a few miles on the road, normally I just tow it from the boat park to the water and back with no problem. The boat weighs about 350kg, but the trailer is probably about 60-70kg, it’s un-braked.

Therefore I am a little over the limit. I have however, fitted EBC green stuff discs and pads and the brakes are now really good.

So if it’s braking force I will be fine, but if it’s a stability issue then I might want to find a friend with a tow bar, unless I add weight to the Jimny?

What does anyone think? Either way I am very steady when I tow and have almost 30 years of towing experience.

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20 Feb 2024 04:25 #254462 by Lambert
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The only reason that the unbaked is so low is because someone at suzuki lifted the figure straight from the hand book and started putting it on the v5. Under construction and use regulations a car has to be able to tow half it's curb weight. In the hand book it says 350 unless local regulations apply. Now on earlier models that don't have a figure on the v5 then you are good to go at around 550kg but if it's specified then you are 350kg. Physically you will be fine unless you have a bump or get a tug then you are in bother.

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20 Feb 2024 09:05 #254471 by DrRobin
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Thanks Lambert, that is a nice clear statement.

It will be with my Gen 3 and I will be the one drifting along at 35-40mph.

Cheers

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20 Feb 2024 09:32 #254472 by Lambert
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I keep thinking I should submit my v5 for alteration on the unbraked limit like you might with an engine swap or something but I don't know what they would want as proof of the alteration.

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