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Re:Re:Re:Re:Steering wheel slightly off centre.
27 Sep 2023 19:49 - 27 Sep 2023 19:52 #251049
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re:Steering wheel slightly off centre.
I agree it has an angle sensor but you described an angle adjuster, it does not have any angle adjuster. You have to under some circumstances have to reset the angle sensor but the adjustment of the steering itself is purely physical.
After the lift the Angle readout does show a variation of around 7 degrees. You simply get under the car and adjust the bar until it is back at zero, you do not electronically reset it
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After the lift the Angle readout does show a variation of around 7 degrees. You simply get under the car and adjust the bar until it is back at zero, you do not electronically reset it
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Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Last edit: 27 Sep 2023 19:52 by mlines.
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27 Sep 2023 19:53 #251050
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re:Steering wheel slightly off centre.
I have one to do over the weekend so will record it
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Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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27 Sep 2023 20:06 - 27 Sep 2023 20:07 #251051
by rogerzilla
Replied by rogerzilla on topic Re:Steering wheel slightly off centre.
Soon cars will have drive-by-wire steering (some Infiniti cars already do, but there is a backup steering column, not normally connected) and it really will be possible to centre the wheel with a laptop. Awful thought, but manufacturers are bent on removing all physical linkages. It does give packaging and mantenance benefits and is normal in aircraft.
Last edit: 27 Sep 2023 20:07 by rogerzilla.
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27 Sep 2023 21:44 #251052
by facade
Then if you reset the angle sensor with the wheel centred as soon as you power on it goes to 7 degrees?
So the solution is to hold the wheel at -7 and reset the angle sensor to zero, so -7 becomes zero, then when you power on the wheel turns to the re-calibrated +7 degrees, which is actually horizontal?
I wonder if it is something to do with the suspension height sensor and it is somehow calculating where the straight ahead would be with the axle at that level?
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic Re:Steering wheel slightly off centre.
Are you saying that even if you wind the track rod until the wheel is centred, when you turn the ignition on the steering turns itself to 7 degrees?I understand what you say but the gen4 in SA have a steering angle sensor.
See videos here showing how the steering wheel re-centre to the angle on steering sensor.
Maybe look at the video I referenced or check my posts.
www.bigjimny.com/index.php/forum/6-jimny...ight?start=12#238252
Also use the obd2 SZ viewer shows it.
If the Steering angle sensor show 7degrees after lift ,they set it to via laptop to cancel out the 7degrees. Then steering will always return to 100% horizontal.
So you welcome to not believe it, for us it work 100%.
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Then if you reset the angle sensor with the wheel centred as soon as you power on it goes to 7 degrees?
So the solution is to hold the wheel at -7 and reset the angle sensor to zero, so -7 becomes zero, then when you power on the wheel turns to the re-calibrated +7 degrees, which is actually horizontal?
I wonder if it is something to do with the suspension height sensor and it is somehow calculating where the straight ahead would be with the axle at that level?
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
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28 Sep 2023 03:28 #251053
by Lambert
Not necessarily as bad a thing as you think in that it would require a change in the law to remove the need for a speed restriction n vehicles without a mechanical connection between the steering wheel and the road wheels which effectively legalises full hydraulic steering meaning that a road going buggy would be possible with a super flexible 4 link front axle.
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One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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Replied by Lambert on topic Re:Steering wheel slightly off centre.
Soon cars will have drive-by-wire steering (some Infiniti cars already do, but there is a backup steering column, not normally connected) and it really will be possible to centre the wheel with a laptop. Awful thought, but manufacturers are bent on removing all physical linkages. It does give packaging and mantenance benefits and is normal in aircraft.
Not necessarily as bad a thing as you think in that it would require a change in the law to remove the need for a speed restriction n vehicles without a mechanical connection between the steering wheel and the road wheels which effectively legalises full hydraulic steering meaning that a road going buggy would be possible with a super flexible 4 link front axle.
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
ADOS Attention Deficit Ooooh Shiny!
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28 Sep 2023 06:07 #251054
by mlines
No height sensor on the LCV which is now the most common version
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Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re:Re:Steering wheel slightly off centre.
facade wrote:
I understand what you say but the gen4 in SA have a steering angle sensor.
See videos here showing how the steering wheel re-centre to the angle on steering sensor.
Maybe look at the video I referenced or check my posts.
www.bigjimny.com/index.php/forum/6-jimny...ight?start=12#238252
Also use the obd2 SZ viewer shows it.
If the Steering angle sensor show 7degrees after lift ,they set it to via laptop to cancel out the 7degrees. Then steering will always return to 100% horizontal.
So you welcome to not believe it, for us it work 100%.
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I wonder if it is something to do with the suspension height sensor and it is somehow calculating where the straight ahead would be with the axle at that level?
No height sensor on the LCV which is now the most common version
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Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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