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Re:Add-ons and GVM
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08 Aug 2023 18:33 #250170
by Roger Fairclough
Replied by Roger Fairclough on topic Re:Add-ons and GVM
Apparently the De-lux ARB bull bar (Small size) weighs in at somewhere between 65-70kg.
May I suggest we get back to the matter in hand?
Roger
May I suggest we get back to the matter in hand?
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09 Aug 2023 10:18 #250175
by 300bhpton
Replied by 300bhpton on topic Re:Add-ons and GVM
For anyone who owns a winch bumper or bullbar, I think you are fighting a loosing battle telling them to get rid. There is probably no chance that they will.
I would also suggest that people living in the UK probably do not have the correct perspective of the hazards that wild Australia can present.
I would also suggest that people living in the UK probably do not have the correct perspective of the hazards that wild Australia can present.
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09 Aug 2023 10:22 #250176
by 300bhpton
This isn't really an issue for anyone in the UK. Because we don't generally need to carry as much, don't have the same scale of wilderness. And the regulations are slightly different. I'm not sure if they are even mandatory or simply 'guidelines' in terms of law.
However for you use case I see these options:
1. Carry less.
2. Get a different vehicle that can carry what you require.
3. Carry on as you are and chance your arm, only you can weigh the potential risk....
4. Get a GVM upgrade such as this: www.ironman4x4.com/blog-posts/gvm-upgrade-to-suit-suzuki-jimny/
Replied by 300bhpton on topic Add-ons and GVM
We have a '21 Jimny and have been adding the usual range of accessories for bush travels, these include an Ironman Bullbar, 6000lb Carbon Winch, Towbar, 80l Longranger tank, full suspension upgrade with a 60mm lift from Tough Dog, Rhino Rack alloy roof tray with a 270 awning, front hitch points, rock sliders and a couple of light weight internal trays etc, kind of all the usual stuff. A recent trip to our local tip and I was in shock when we sat on the weighbridge, with my wife beside me (65kg) I'm 86kg and we were reading 1568kg, 133kg over GVM!
Now I need to do some double checks and a special trip to confirm the weights, but this scared the crap out of me as if we were in a accident due to some third party idiot, our insurance would most likely love to kiss us goodbye without a GVM upgrade.
Has anyone else experienced similar issues and how did you go about fixing it? I'm estimating we need a GVM upgrade to around 1800kg to be safe once we have some camping goodies and maybe a small trailer hitched. I've spoken to a couple of Certifiers but they have not got back to me with anything concrete for a path forward, also waiting to hear from Tough Dog on the suspension specs. Getting the impression people are running for cover!
This isn't really an issue for anyone in the UK. Because we don't generally need to carry as much, don't have the same scale of wilderness. And the regulations are slightly different. I'm not sure if they are even mandatory or simply 'guidelines' in terms of law.
However for you use case I see these options:
1. Carry less.
2. Get a different vehicle that can carry what you require.
3. Carry on as you are and chance your arm, only you can weigh the potential risk....
4. Get a GVM upgrade such as this: www.ironman4x4.com/blog-posts/gvm-upgrade-to-suit-suzuki-jimny/
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10 Aug 2023 01:13 #250189
by fordem
Not certain where that 65~70 kg comes from...
www.bigjimny.com/index.php/forum/7-jimny...r-4th-gen-2021-jimny
www.equip-raid.fr/ressources/references/..._Product_Release.pdf
Replied by fordem on topic Re:Add-ons and GVM
Apparently the De-lux ARB bull bar (Small size) weighs in at somewhere between 65-70kg.
May I suggest we get back to the matter in hand?
Roger
Not certain where that 65~70 kg comes from...
www.bigjimny.com/index.php/forum/7-jimny...r-4th-gen-2021-jimny
www.equip-raid.fr/ressources/references/..._Product_Release.pdf
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10 Aug 2023 07:44 #250192
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Replied by Roger Fairclough on topic Re:Add-ons and GVM
I found it on the web.
Considering a GVM upgrade, this does not increase the GTW. That must remain the same, so what you gain with the update - 350kg - you loose out on your trailer / van. Because of this Dihusky is going to need to do the maths in more detail ie every add on needs to have a weight attached and then a more detailed analysis of what he really needs.
By the way, does a GVM update include higher spec. brakes?
Roger
Considering a GVM upgrade, this does not increase the GTW. That must remain the same, so what you gain with the update - 350kg - you loose out on your trailer / van. Because of this Dihusky is going to need to do the maths in more detail ie every add on needs to have a weight attached and then a more detailed analysis of what he really needs.
By the way, does a GVM update include higher spec. brakes?
Roger
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10 Aug 2023 11:01 #250194
by 300bhpton
Replied by 300bhpton on topic Re:Add-ons and GVM
Why would you need different brakes? It’s not as if the Jimny is under brakes in stock trim. And as you said the GTW doesn’t change.
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