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Re:Re:Re:Eibach 25mm pro lift springs

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25 Sep 2020 18:27 - 25 Sep 2020 18:29 #228553 by Quasi
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It just took me 5 minutes to find the spring spec, on the TUV certificate by looking at Eibach's website www.eibach.de/en/fahrwerk/performance-tu...-performance-springs and ending up with this...
media.carparts-cat.com/pdf/Einbau/192545/112/E3080003.PDF
Technische Daten
Technical data
VORDERACHSE
FRONT AXLE
Kennzeichnung:
Identification 31-80-003-02-FA
Feder-Charakteristik
Characteristic lineare
Außendurchmesser (mm)
Outer diameter 105
Drahtdurchmesser (mm)
Wire diameter 11,25
ungespannte Federlänge
untensioned length 360
Gesamtwindungszahl
Total number of coils 9,25
Technische Daten
Technical data
HINTERACHSE
REAR AXLE
Federausführung hinten
Spring version rear 31-80-003-02-RA
Feder-Charakteristik
Characteristic lineare
Außendurchmesser (mm)
Outer diameter 107
Drahtdurchmesser (mm)
Wire diameter 11,25
ungespannte Federlänge
untensioned length 308
Gesamtwindungszahl
Total number of coils 7,75
Last edit: 25 Sep 2020 18:29 by Quasi. Reason: added spec to make lie easy
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26 Sep 2020 06:42 #228559 by Lambert
Ok thanks. That's what I feared. They are using a thicker wire instead of a longer free length. That's fine for either a heavier truck or a firmer on road ride but it does nothing for articulation. If they were offering a longer free length with the standard wire diameter and an extra half coil etc that'd make sense for an off road capable vehicle. Couple with something like a trailmaster or AVO damper and winner winner chicken dinner.

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26 Sep 2020 06:50 #228560 by Lambert
Also why not openly publish that information on the sales page linked by the product finder, why hide it in the depths of the tuv certification? OK it took you 5 minutes to find it but to me it's just another reason to not buy.

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26 Sep 2020 09:26 #228563 by sniper
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I don't think you would choose Eibach if off road performance was a priority, they are definitely road biased and 30mm isn't really much of a lift target. Thats why I run 15mm seats... Having said that, I do off road them and they perform without fault.

Wire diameter, free length and coil numbers are all pretty much irrelevant to the end user. Stance and performance are the benchmarks by which the vast majority of users will judge them.

The car sat higher, the car cornered better and it handled the off roading I do without complaint. What the specs say had no impact at all....

The Eibach name and +30mm were enough information for me to buy.... each to their own I suppose.....

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11 Dec 2020 19:50 #230853 by Jamin
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Hi all,

I'm fitting the Eibach springs on Monday. Will report back.

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02 Jan 2021 12:33 #231425 by DavidWalsh
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Hey Jamin, just wondering how thees springs worked out for you?

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02 Jan 2021 14:19 #231429 by Roger Fairclough
They are also linear rate instead of progressive. I fitted progressive rate springs to my TLC and got the best of both worlds.

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03 Jan 2021 10:48 #231441 by Busta
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Roger Fairclough wrote: They are also linear rate instead of progressive. I fitted progressive rate springs to my TLC and got the best of both worlds.

Roger


Progressive springs are great for performance cars where you can have good cornering performance without losing plushness on the road, but for an off road vehicle they work back to front. For good road manners we want shorter travel, stiffer springs to control body roll and off road we want long travel soft springs to absorb big bumps and give good articulation. Progressive springs are soft for the first part of the travel making a top heavy car wobbly at low speeds, and then get progressively stiffer as you use more of the travel, killing articulation and off-road ride quality.

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03 Jan 2021 10:52 #231442 by Roger Fairclough
I am speaking from experience, not hearsay.

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20 Jan 2021 21:54 #232016 by Jamin
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Ownership report after several weeks : wow!

It drives better in all conditions. The springs provided quite a bit of lift, more than expected. The Jimny sits much higher than on the old stock springs. But the ride; it's better from a to z. Small bumps no longer jar the car, the springs ride over them like a car almost. The medium-high speed cornering and stability is miles better, much stiffer and less body roll.

Stock springs are both harsh on bumps and very soft and rolly. The Eibachs are the exact opposite.

Stock shocks are still retained at the moment, and I have no doubt the improvements will only increase with new shocks.
I recommend to anyone.

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20 Jan 2021 22:36 #232017 by Busta
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It sounds like a big improvement Out of interest, what is the age and mileage of the vehicle you've fitted them to? I've found the standard springs do get tired and sag, especially the rears. It seems common on vehicles like the Jimny that use springs made with relatively thin wire and widely spaced coils. That would explain the bigger than expected difference in ride height and perhaps will have contributed to the poor ride quality.

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20 Jan 2021 22:38 #232018 by Jamin
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2002 with 130,000KM

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