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New Jimny 2017 Tokyo Show

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10 Feb 2018 11:40 #189231 by Foxtrot
Replied by Foxtrot on topic New Jimny 2017 Tokyo Show
The UK link mentions there will be a five door later on and it will have a low ratio box but also the AllGrip system. That's the best of both worlds. The rear wheel drive as standard has caught me out a few times with my previous Jimnys

www.colinappleyard.com/blog/2018/suzuki-jimny-2017

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10 Feb 2018 13:28 #189235 by auchenblae
Agreed about the default rear wheel drive.

I came home one icy night in my Impreza with winter tyres. Drove up our track and never noticed any slip in the car due to the full time 4WD.

Took the other half out to a ladies night out in the Jimny in 2WD and on my return driving up the track went over the same patch of ice that I did not notice in the Impreza. The back end of the Jimny had a big step out with the rear wheels.

On picking her up later that evening on my return put the Jimny in 4WD and drove over the ice patch with no issues.

The other pain in 4WD on the Jimny is reversing round a corner or on very sharp bends going forward where the lack of a centre diff causes crabbing.

Yes the car is long overdue a more sophisticated 4WD system for those who consider the Jimny a daily driver.

eddie

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10 Feb 2018 13:34 #189236 by auchenblae

Lambert wrote: If it's longer it will be heavier so logically should be able to tow more. Ok I'm hooked.


I would not hold your breath for much in the way of better towing capacity as the Jimny is being designed for low cost areas and the big option to do that is to reduce the weight of the car.

Towing is a function of the car weight among other things and there may be a small increase, I cannot think it will be worth much as the weight of any reasonable sized trailer is not that small and will swallow up a good bit of the Jimnys towing capacity.

eddie

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10 Feb 2018 13:54 #189238 by helijohn
Replied by helijohn on topic New Jimny 2017 Tokyo Show

Foxtrot wrote: also the AllGrip system. That's the best of both worlds. The rear wheel drive as standard has caught me out a few times with my previous Jimnys


Absolutely

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10 Feb 2018 16:50 #189241 by furo
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I'm not sure that Suzuki calling the new Jimny All Grip means that it will be in permanent all-wheel drive. I know in many markets they refer to the current Jimny as All Grip - I think it's just a marketing term for all their variants of 4WD/AWD. I've definitely been caught out a few times myself, and it would be great if they changed it, but part-time 4WD is what's available in the majority of serious trucks, and I doubt Suzuki will have much of an incentive to change that.

www.globalsuzuki.com/allgrip/index.html

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10 Feb 2018 18:31 - 10 Feb 2018 19:26 #189244 by auchenblae
Correct about ALLGRIP.

The Jimny has lets say a MK1 version with no centre diff and manual selection of 4WD

Then say Mk3 was the first SX4

Now on the latest Vitara and the SX4 S-Cross etc say it is MK4 ALLGRIP with a center diff.

At best it is 2WD and you can turn a knob and it will still be 2WD but will automatically go into 4WD when it is slippy. Not as good as a Subaru going down a hill as the Subaru has engine braking on 4 Wheels.

The Grand Vitara appears to have full time 4WD with a center diff and a limited slip diff I guess on the back axle. That to my thinking is better but that may be just too expensive for the market the Jimny has to sell into
The problem that Subaru, the Suzuki Grand Vitara and AUDI now have is the extra fuel consumption during the other 10 months a year when the 4WD may or may not be needed.

The latest AUDI's that are being announced have a different version of the Quattro system that only goes into 4WD when it is slippy or is needed. Similar to the 4WD system on the VW cars

eddie

16 SZ3
07 JLX+ gone 16
99 JLX gone 07
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