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New Jimny 2017 Tokyo Show
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21 Nov 2018 18:41 #197941
by Lambert
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Having a black car, it's easy to make it look good from afar but on inspection it's far from good.
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21 Nov 2018 21:23 #197961
by Max Headroom
IF IT AINT BROKE, KEEP FIXING IT UNTIL IT IS
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I like black cars... but I just couldnt live with one,
Henry ford once said "Any customer can have a car painted any colour that he wants, so long as it is black."
Dark colours look shinier :side:
Henry ford once said "Any customer can have a car painted any colour that he wants, so long as it is black."
Dark colours look shinier :side:
IF IT AINT BROKE, KEEP FIXING IT UNTIL IT IS
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21 Nov 2018 22:21 #197962
by auchenblae
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Replied by auchenblae on topic New Jimny 2017 Tokyo Show
Few comments on recent questions.
On purchasing a new Jimny, Nov 2016 it was poorly rust protected and I did a full Dinitrol job. This week I had a look and there are some rusting areas, will get some pictures up this weekend and work out how to sort the rust stains.
Rustproofing is at Mazda levels which is crap. I will post pictures of my new MX5 rust protection works next week. Do not think for a moment Suzuki will be any better.
My 2009 Scobby is in great condition underneath much better than my 2005 Scooby after 9 years. If Scooby can do it so should Mazda and Suzuki.
The rush of orders is just nonsence from people mostly buying on looks only because it looks "cute".
A large number of these early buyers will regret the lack of sophistication that a basic car designed for offroad use to a great extend will be years behind their upmarket road cars they trade in.
Those PCPing the cars will be forced to keep it for three years or so as their monthly payments on all sorts of items like Sky TV and £80 a month iPhone etc., do not allow then to do much more than that.
The better off Cash buyers in my opinion will trade them in after a year to 18 months as the "Cuteness" will lose out to the lack of sophistication.
There will be many second-hand cars available before Jan 2021.
On purchasing a new Jimny, Nov 2016 it was poorly rust protected and I did a full Dinitrol job. This week I had a look and there are some rusting areas, will get some pictures up this weekend and work out how to sort the rust stains.
Rustproofing is at Mazda levels which is crap. I will post pictures of my new MX5 rust protection works next week. Do not think for a moment Suzuki will be any better.
My 2009 Scobby is in great condition underneath much better than my 2005 Scooby after 9 years. If Scooby can do it so should Mazda and Suzuki.
The rush of orders is just nonsence from people mostly buying on looks only because it looks "cute".
A large number of these early buyers will regret the lack of sophistication that a basic car designed for offroad use to a great extend will be years behind their upmarket road cars they trade in.
Those PCPing the cars will be forced to keep it for three years or so as their monthly payments on all sorts of items like Sky TV and £80 a month iPhone etc., do not allow then to do much more than that.
The better off Cash buyers in my opinion will trade them in after a year to 18 months as the "Cuteness" will lose out to the lack of sophistication.
There will be many second-hand cars available before Jan 2021.
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99 JLX gone 07
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21 Nov 2018 23:01 #197963
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22 Nov 2018 01:38 #197967
by zukebob
I agree with some of what you say but my opinion is probably a little more tempered. If I didn't currently own a Jimny, I wouldn't hesitate for a moment in buying a new generation model. On the other hand, I think that anyone who sells their current generation Jimny (assuming it isn't already at the very end of its life), in order to buy the new model will likely regret their decision. That is even more likely if they have modified their current one to improve its off-road capabilities.
You may be correct that there will be purchases by people who have no familiarity with Jimnys and are making the investment due to its "cuteness". That happened in the U.S. when the Samurai first hit the market but I think that group will be the minority. Only time will tell on that issue. If you are correct, you will also be correct about a large used Jimny market.
My conclusion is that the new Jimny is a nice vehicle and is certainly worthy of ownership by an enthusiast. I just don't think it is significantly better in doing what the current model does.
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auchenblae wrote: A large number of these early buyers will regret the lack of sophistication
I agree with some of what you say but my opinion is probably a little more tempered. If I didn't currently own a Jimny, I wouldn't hesitate for a moment in buying a new generation model. On the other hand, I think that anyone who sells their current generation Jimny (assuming it isn't already at the very end of its life), in order to buy the new model will likely regret their decision. That is even more likely if they have modified their current one to improve its off-road capabilities.
You may be correct that there will be purchases by people who have no familiarity with Jimnys and are making the investment due to its "cuteness". That happened in the U.S. when the Samurai first hit the market but I think that group will be the minority. Only time will tell on that issue. If you are correct, you will also be correct about a large used Jimny market.
My conclusion is that the new Jimny is a nice vehicle and is certainly worthy of ownership by an enthusiast. I just don't think it is significantly better in doing what the current model does.
I started out with nothing & still have most of it left
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22 Nov 2018 05:25 - 22 Nov 2018 05:27 #197969
by Lambert
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
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I'm with you on not changing an existing one until its end of life. Father is getting increasingly invested in the idea of a new one because of it's additional power for towing, maintaining that the stronger engine will be better at towing the same weight. I'm sure it will upto a point. My argument is that for a fraction of the cost of swapping, Ermintrude could be further adapted to more than compensate and that's without even putting a 1.6 in.
Don't get me wrong I love the look of the new one and Suzuki could have some of my money for one tomorrow if it were an emotional purchase. But from a business perspective I have a hard time seeing how it would pay me back when Ermintrude is only half way through her debt.
Don't get me wrong I love the look of the new one and Suzuki could have some of my money for one tomorrow if it were an emotional purchase. But from a business perspective I have a hard time seeing how it would pay me back when Ermintrude is only half way through her debt.
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