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Electric vs manual transfer box differences

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12 May 2014 12:14 - 12 May 2014 12:16 #114938 by Busta
In terms of replacing one with the other, what are the differences between the newer and older Jimny transfer boxes?

Can the electric controlled boxes be converted to manual or is the casing/ shift mechanism completely different?

Can you easily install a 2005+ transfer box into an older jimny?

Any pictures would be appreciated.
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12 May 2014 14:34 #114950 by jtayl153
Replied by jtayl153 on topic Electric vs manual transfer box differences
as far as I know, the gearing is slightly different. Im sure it's been done and could be done again, but I am under the impression that, similar to VVT vs non VVT compatibility, electric and manual transfer is the same.

Could be wrong though.

I like my electric anyway.

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12 May 2014 17:23 - 12 May 2014 18:05 #114983 by Busta
The gearing is different.
The 2005+ manual boxes are higher in both ranges so not much good.
The newer auto box, however, has the same ratio in HI range as the older boxes, but LO range is 23% lower. This would be the main reason for changing, as well as the newer models having a stronger chain.

For those of us running near-standard tyre sizes and/or bigger engines, it would mean better LO range without affecting the cruising speed. (A rocklobster drops HI range by 10%)

An even better combination would be the HI range gears from a newer manual car, LO range from a newer automatic and the diffs from a newer manual. If possible, this would give near-stock HI range and 35% lower LO range!
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12 May 2014 18:56 #114990 by Docmartin4x4
Replied by Docmartin4x4 on topic Electric vs manual transfer box differences
Right bear with me on this guys............so if I fit a transfer box from a 2005 on jimny to my 2006 jim the HI range(standard 2 wheel drive and standard 4 wheel drive) will be the same but when in LO range it would give me a 23% reduction! which will help emensely if I fit bigger tyres ( was thinking of 235 75 15).

Mart

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12 May 2014 19:35 #114996 by Busta
Here's the info I'm working with for the ratios.

www.bigjimny.com/images/documents/transferboxratios.pdf

Mart, if your Jimny is a 2006 manual then you can do a straight swap with a 2005-on auto transfer case and get lower ratios in both HI and LO range.

I'm surprised nobody knows about converting the electric range shift to a gearstick?

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12 May 2014 22:44 #115021 by jonesyba420
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Surely it would be easier to fit a 3 way switch on the dash?

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13 May 2014 05:45 #115036 by safari
so to fit an electrical t/c on my manual jimny 1998 would it be a streight swap no need to modify shafts etc ?

if u worry u die if u dont worry u still die so why worry

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13 May 2014 07:49 #115041 by Busta

jonesyba420 wrote: Surely it would be easier to fit a 3 way switch on the dash?


Possibly. Is it as simple as plugging in the switch though? I imagined there's some sort of ECU wizzardry involved.

safari wrote: so to fit an electrical t/c on my manual jimny 1998 would it be a straight swap no need to modify shafts etc ?


No idea, that's what I'm trying to work out!

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13 May 2014 07:57 #115042 by jonesyba420
Replied by jonesyba420 on topic Electric vs manual transfer box differences
Ive got a switch thats between my manual t box and hubs so I can have 2 low, just a basic switch.its more a question of how the electric t box changes gear?

Is it only electric t box's from an auto jimny that have the lower ratio low box?

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13 May 2014 08:06 #115044 by Busta
I have a 2LO switch too B)

Check out the link I posted earlier for the ratios. Yes, only electric autos.

Yes how they change gear, and how the shafts mate together.

Ideally I'd want a gear stick though as every vehicle I've driven with electric range shift has driven me mad! I can't imagine the Suzuki system is any better.

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14 May 2014 09:12 #115179 by Busta
I'm amazed to nobody on here is able to answer this! I thought this was the font of all Jimny knowledge?

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14 May 2014 12:53 #115199 by mlines
Electric tboxes are different and cannot be converted. Manual ones can be fitted to cars made with electric ones with a bit of wiring trickery to fool the electrics

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Martin

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