recovery.

No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationNo eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationi go laning on my own (with the misses) quite abit and have been thinking about self recovery as the weather is getting shite, generally you only need to be pulled back a little way to regain traction so im not interested in fitting winches etc.

im thinking either a:

www.jimnybits.co.uk/shop/recovery/t-max-...m-jack/prod_162.html

which you usually use in conjunction with chains BUT i dont really fancy carrying a load of chain around with me so im wondering if you could use these instead:



one to use as the inital anchor point and the other to hold the vehicle to re adjust the jack for another pull if needed.

combined with:



have to protect the enviroment dont we

Or im thinking one of one of these:

www.jimnybits.co.uk/shop/recovery/t-max-handwinch/prod_165.html

but there only rated to 1600kg???and how big are they?i mean we are limited to space in our wee truck!and no im not taking the rear seats out :laugh:

any views comments are appreciated even if your telling me im an idiot and barking up the wrong tree with the ratchet strap idea :laugh:

No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationSomething like this is ideal and very very versatile

same idea as the tmax i posted a link to. how big are they? is 1600kg enough?

Remember you can double the pull by doubling the rope.

So a 1600kg puller can pull 3200kg if the rope is double back on itself.

There is a video from a magazine on Youtube somewhere of them recovering a LandRover with Duct Tape, long strips doubling back on themselves halving the pull each time until the point is reached where the pull required is within the limits of the Duct tape strength.

However using this doubling technique halves the pull speed each time you loop around, therefore it gets painfully slow as the number of loops builds up.

Martin

Very true martin forgot about that.
So for a not to majorly stuck jimny say just grounded out on ruts you wouldnt need to double the line as we only weigh 1100kg and if really stuck double the line?

So how big is one of those tmax hand winches? Is it going to fill the boot?

They are quite big when compared to the vast expanse of boot space available in a Jimny with the rear seats still fitted!.

The other trick I was always told was when in doubt, recover backwards. This is because the ground was driveable up until the last moment when you got stuck, therefore in theory the minimun pull distance to get to driveable ground is backwards. Pulling forwards you are going on through the obstacle over ground whos driveability is unknown so you could have a heavy and long pull.

Martin

Agreed,you may only need to be pulled back a foot to then get traction and reverse out and try again. Rather that than pull yourself forward through an obstacle risking getting stuck worse or damaging the vehicle.

I was thinking I could mount the high lift to my roofrack and carry the straps inside a box in the boot.any thoughts on the ratchet strap idea?

I'd go for the 5 metere strops, the first ones you put up are only realy for tying down onto a trailer
Weve used strops to recover range rovers with out any problems

In what way would the strops be used?please enlighten me Im talking for self recovery.

The limitation with the ratchet straps is you can only get about a foot of pull before the drum is full, and half of that will be taking up the slack. I've recovered a stuck quad with a ratchet strap and it was effective but very time consuming.

The farm jack has similar limitations, is heavy and bulky and needs an assortment of other bits to 'rig' it up.

I'd go for the Tirfor type hand winch because you can get a nice long pull, it's fairly compact and easy to set up. 1600kg is fine for pulling you back out of trouble.

I think youve slightly mis understood my idea for the ratchet straps, I thought they could be used instead of the chains you generally use in conjunction with a high lift jack as you could ratchet it all tight taking up any slsck rather than the jack taking up the slack first thus maximising the pull you get with the jack.

so it would go tree then ratchet strap to the high lift then tow strap to the jimny, so you would the ratchet the jack to the tree taking up the excess slack then use the full extent of the high lift to winch with.Then if you need to readjust the jack for a second pull you employ the second ratchet strap to hold the jimny like the short chain in a high lift recovery kit.does that make sense?

anyone got a picture of a tirfor winch in the boot of a jimny so I can see how big it is?

Reading this with interest cos I reckon you'll end up wanting a bumper mounted winch!