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External cage extra weight

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25 Apr 2012 10:58 #38555 by Smoggy
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Ive heard a lot of mention lately about the adverse effects of heavy external cages on suspension sag, engine performance etc. Does anyone with a cage know how much extra weight is involved and whether the trade off with extra protection provided is worth it in their view. I already have the extra weight of all my underbody protection and ORA bumpers, winch etc. and wondered how it would affect my ORA +4.5'' springs and standard 108k mileage engine. Also would there be much welding/fabrication work to link a cage to my ORA bumpers and ORA rock sliders. My welding skills are reasonable bordering on mediocre!Cheers.

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25 Apr 2012 11:37 #38557 by reaper
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i carnt give u a number but i can lift my kap cage and carry it across works carpark
my winch is heavyer

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25 Apr 2012 14:22 #38577 by Smoggy
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Interesting. My winch is pretty damn heavy mind! So might go for it and make do til my engine blows up. Then il tell our lass "well have to get a 1.6 vitara lump" :-)

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25 Apr 2012 14:33 #38578 by TomDK
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Smoggy wrote: Interesting. My winch is pretty damn heavy mind! So might go for it and make do til my engine blows up. Then il tell our lass "well have to get a 1.6 vitara lump" :-)


Does it have to be External cage?

Why not consider an internal cage? Perhaps OMP or something alike? It's a much stronger cage hence the diagonal tubing, and not as bulky looking as an external.

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25 Apr 2012 16:17 #38582 by Obarno
If you want an internal cage, which I have, it came from KAP Suzuki, but is made for them by Protection and Performance, and I think KAP have the exclusive rights to sell that cage design. P & P have an excellent reputation and their cages seem well made.

Manual VVT, 2 1/2" lift, ORA castor corrected arms, 2" ORA body lift, 4:1 transfer box, Uprated front shafts & CVs ERM , ARBs back & front 3.9 diffs, 6 point cage, ORA winch bumper - Superwinch EP9, ORA rear bumper, ORA axle truses, Diff guards ERM , TBR tank guard, Snorkel, Kumho KL71.30.9.50 15

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25 Apr 2012 18:31 #38589 by Smoggy
Replied by Smoggy on topic Re: External cage extra weight
Yeah the internal cage is definitely worth a thought but if im honest i sort of fancy the body protection an external cage offers. Also from what people say there probably wont be a great deal of weight difference between the two.

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