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    The demise of the Defender
            
        
                16 Mar 2021 08:57         -  16 Mar 2021 09:00        #233760
        by lightning
    
    
 	
					
			
				    
    
            
            
            
            
                                
    
                                                
    
        Replied by lightning on topic The demise of the Defender            
    
        l've got an original Defender and a Jimny. They are both great working vehicles, the new Defender is great but it's not a Defender, if only Suzuki had made the Jimny 25% larger!
     
    
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                16 Mar 2021 09:11                #233761
        by Lambert
    
    
            
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        Replied by Lambert on topic The demise of the Defender            
    
        Jimny doesn't want to be any much bigger otherwise it means that the only viable alternative for farmers is a side by side and even the new Jimny kicks those in the unmentionables and steals their pocket money.    
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                16 Mar 2021 09:54                #233762
        by 300bhpton
    
    
    
            
            
            
            
                                
    
                                                
    
        Replied by 300bhpton on topic The demise of the Defender            
    
        The new Pretender is a very good Discovery replacement. But it is no Defender.    
            
    
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                16 Mar 2021 10:11                #233763
        by Gadget
    
    
        
     
            
    
            
            
            
            
            
                                
    
                                                
    
        Replied by Gadget on topic The demise of the Defender            
    Thankfully only a very small minority of Gen4s have been pimped in the same way. The fact that it's a tiny car means that the over-compensating crowd aren't interested in the first place, after all what's the point in having a 4x4 if you can't loom threateningly 6 inches from someone's back bumper at 80mph in the outside lane?X8GGY wrote: Before we start throwing stones in our glasshouse...
Isn't the Gen4 going the same way?...
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                16 Mar 2021 14:20                #233768
        by DAGZOOK
    
    
        
    
            
            
            
            
            
                                
    
                                                
    
        Replied by DAGZOOK on topic The demise of the Defender            
    I'm not so sure.. Yes in a sense that the Gen.4 SZ5 has some impressive bells and whistles for it's price point, but ultimately the Gen.4's principle design is a barebones body on frame 4x4. Had JLR released a new defender that featured 21st centry bells and whistles, but remained structually and mechanically true to its roots, it would be an absolute game changer..... (Ineos Grenedier........ )X8GGY wrote: Before we start throwing stones in our glasshouse...
Isn't the Gen4 going the same way?...
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                16 Mar 2021 16:18                #233770
        by Roger Fairclough
    
    
            
            
            
            
            
                                
    
                                                
    
        Replied by Roger Fairclough on topic The demise of the Defender            
    
        The high cost of the new Defender - aka Chelsea Tractor - is the need to build in sufficient funds to rectify the inevitable faults.
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