SJ Transfer Boxes

vitara_mad wrote:

MigCooper wrote: I spent some time already looking at this and it seems that there is a lot of money to spend in this route ... I think that to achieve a proper reduction you will need 2 transfer cases, one from a 413 and one from a 410 and then get then to a specialist to make one 1 of the 2.... from my calculations from what I can remember the 413 transfer case was 250 and the 410 was around 400 + plus the "magic work"

So after thinking a lot I think I will go for the (Product name removed at the request of the manufacturer). you can check them (Product name removed at the request of the manufacturer)].
Still one month to decide and then something will happen :evil:

you dont need to buy new transfer box's to get them made into a lobster box just get used ones it cost me £50 for both the 410 & 413 box & then £400 to get them made into a lobster box & the fitting kit only other thing i had to get was the prop shafts so all in it was about £500

or you could just buy everything already done inc the fitting kit & the lobster box from o.r.a or d&g tuning or they might even be more supplyers around

I would love that and will have another look arround as the (Product name removed at the request of the manufacturer) are arround 700 euros plus fitting and will be limited to that from that point on .... will check ora now

cheers

In the end I have around 700 euros to spend on parts and want the best option for this price...

Rob Butler mite have something to say to this :whistle:

The main thing to look at when purchasing a kit is to how the gears have been cut and welded back together,
The right way is to drill and pin them then to weld them together, the welding needs
to be done right and the gear needs to be 100% square on the shaft.
The welding also needs to be high quality and not just any idiot with a Mig/Tig!!

Other than that you could build your own, new seals and bearings are not too expensive.

I have seen a few different kits around and some look a bit shoddy to me, if the mounting
kit and speedo converter look crap then just think of the gears inside doing all the
work!!!

I'm not going to publicaly recommend or slag off anyones boxs as the forums speak
for themselves....

Do a bit of trawling about and the good names crop up again and again

You know what, i will add a bit more to my previous post..

I shopped around for ages looking at where to buy my lobster from, speaking to
people in the real world and finding out which were reliable and which were a bit
er well naff really!!
I wont be naming the ones i've heard bad things about, so after speaking to people
who compete and are using them in the harshest terrain 1 name just kept on cropping up,
i then spent a little more time trawling though forums looking up who had ben having
problems with gears coming apart, i wasnt too fussed about oil seals and bearings
as i count those as consumables it was mainly the gears as thats the crucial part!!

Luckily i went to Kirton a managed to get a look at a good kit, i then spoke to Rockwatt
and ordered my kit from him, for less money i recieved a realy good peice of kit
which came with a rockbucket to protect the box from impact, my own choice of drive
flanges, a nice pneumatic fitting and hose for the breather and the speedo drive
is a thing of beauty!!
I worked for an engineering company for around 10 years so i know what im looking
for in these kits and this one just looked the best both inside and out!!!!
this comes highly recommended by me and many others if you look around, i don't
think it was built in a shed though????
Also to add this has now done 8000 miles but ive changed the oil 3 times as i like to
keep it clean!!!
Pic's

Speedo drive


Lobster installed


Rockbucket


Lobster

i have the same the only differance is i made my own rockbucket

Hi Jamie,

Glad you like yours , good bit of gear, been pleased with mine, just wish i'd have got around to it years ago lol. Rich did mine:woohoo:

Andy

Hi Jamie

Thanks a lot for the reply .... the biggest problem I am facing is finding any gear in Ireland. There is absolutely nothing here.... No 410 or 413 .... and from the search I did no one here would do that kind of work... :blink:

So I need to source the 2 transfer cases in other countries, then post them to Ireland and then again to UK and back, big logistic operation.

So my options are down to (Product Name Deleted at the request of the Manufacturer) or one fully build "Plug and play".
Any help will be appreciated in finding a solution ....

Have a word with Richard, he will locate some box's do the work and
Post it off to you all ready to fit, the (Product Name Deleted at the request of the Manufacturer) at 700 euros also
State you need to replace the drive chain in the box at the cost of around £200
From suzuki!!

I've heard too many horror stories of chains stretching and the like... It is a good
Peice of kit let down by suzuki's crap design!!!!

If you want to speak to Richard he is a really nice guy and will explain
All your options....pm me if you want his number!!

If you contact Richard he would most likely agree to you buying the two boxes and having them sent straight to him rather than Ireland. Then once he has both boxes you'll have to wait his lead time of about 8 weeks.

You might not get back the exact same box as the ones you sent him but it doesn't matter as he checks all the casings and replaces all bearings needed and seals.

I've been in his workshop in his garden and it would make companies jealous.

You just have to wonder for someone who does not advertise his services, why is it that so many people use him and recommend him? Word and mouth is a good advertisement.

I think that some of the stories of old about gears being pulled apart in boxes by another mainstream company supplier might be a thing if the past now. People learn and improve. I know who Jamie speaks of but will not make negative reference and believe their work to be good now.

Kirkynut

Does anyone no a rough price as to how much a rockwatt rocklobster would cost? I dont have the transfer boxes yet so dont want to mess Richard about by calling him and not being able to say yes to doing the work.

Obviously I get that no one will be able to give me an exact price but just need an estimate so I can save for it!!!

Bigchridy wrote: dont want to mess Richard about by calling

Just Call i dont bite :lol:

Rockwatt wrote:

Bigchridy wrote: dont want to mess Richard about by calling

Just Call i dont bite :lol:

Didnt realise you were on here!

I'll call you on sunday as arranged or I'll txt you if I'm too busy at work.

Cheers

Chris