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Headlight level adjust not working

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23 Sep 2024 10:22 #257653 by PDX-ORE
Before I start throwing new parts at this, thought I'd ask the group. 

New to me 2003 JB33 Jimny

Spinning the headlight adjuster/rotary wheel 0-1-2-3-4 does not move the headlights. Is it simple as needing a new switch? Or both motors on the back of the headlights have died. I do not hear any mechanical noise from them when I spin the switch (standing outside the car with the bonnet up).

I pulled with switch out and opened it up. Not much to "clean" inside as far are corroded parts. Popped it back in, still nothing. 

Is it possible the previous owner disengaged somewhere as it has a 40mm lift, maybe not wanting to dazzle drivers. Have tracked the wiring from the back of the switch... looks good. Same as back of both headlights... wiring all looks good. 

 

 
 

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23 Sep 2024 10:52 #257654 by fordem
Maybe get a test meter & verify power - all we can do from a distance is guess.

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23 Sep 2024 11:20 #257655 by Soeley

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23 Sep 2024 12:12 #257656 by mlines
The common fault is the motor in the headlamp has rusted solid

Martin

2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses

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25 Sep 2024 09:09 #257675 by PDX-ORE

Maybe get a test meter & verify power - all we can do from a distance is guess.
 
Understood, was really probing for any known solves or watch-outs. 

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25 Sep 2024 09:10 #257676 by PDX-ORE

The common fault is the motor in the headlamp has rusted solid
Thank you... I'll pull one and see if I can open it up, have a look inside.

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25 Sep 2024 09:12 #257677 by PDX-ORE

Blown fuse?
From what I can tell, the whole lamp (headlight, signal, running light, leveling motor) are all on one fuse. It does not have an independent fuse for just the leveling motor.

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25 Sep 2024 09:34 #257678 by facade
They are actually a little position servo, like in an RC aeroplane etc.
The roller on the dash is a potentiometer that sets a voltage, and the headlamp motor winds a leadscrew in or out until the potentiometer attached to the light gives the same voltage. After a few years, dirt/wear on the potentiometer track at the headlight end causes it to continually hunt back & forth with a sort of high pitched zzzzzzz noise that will drive you nuts trying to find it, but a slight tweak of the roller on the dash will sort it.

They run continually with the ignition IIRC, which is why the noise is so annoying & hard to find, as the lights aren't necessarily on so you don't think it is them.

The whole light doesn't move, just the reflector inside it.

Anyway, as Martin said, could be seized motors, or sometimes the leadscrew gets disconnected inside the headlight and the motor runs straight to one end of its travel and stops trying to get the voltages to match.

If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there :)
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25 Sep 2024 14:19 - 25 Sep 2024 14:23 #257681 by fordem

Blown fuse?
From what I can tell, the whole lamp (headlight, signal, running light, leveling motor) are all on one fuse. It does not have an independent fuse for just the leveling motor.

I don't know where you're getting this idea from, but it's incorrect, headlights are on two fuses (left & right are fused separately), turn signals are on a different fuse, running lights on another fuse - I've never looked to see where the level motor gets it's power from, but, we're upto a count of four fuses so far, not just one.
Last edit: 25 Sep 2024 14:23 by fordem. Reason: typo

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25 Sep 2024 14:20 #257682 by fordem
I took a quick look at the diagrams - headlight levelling gets power from the wiper/washer fuse ...
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25 Sep 2024 18:55 #257684 by PDX-ORE

I took a quick look at the diagrams - headlight levelling gets power from the wiper/washer fuse ...
Interesting. The wipers/washer systems are working fine. But great to know! 

I do not have the Service/Workshop manual yet, so need to get my hand on one. Was assuming the beams/turns were on the same fuse as my box-lid does not label them individually.

Appreciated!

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25 Sep 2024 19:24 #257685 by facade

I took a quick look at the diagrams - headlight levelling gets power from the wiper/washer fuse ...
 
That explains why mine made that noise whenever the ignition was on.

If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there :)

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