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Lockers
15 Oct 2021 22:07 #239441
by Busta
That's what everyone seems to think but actually the opposite is true. In 4wd it goes wherever the front wheels are pointed, quite literally. The turning circle is the same as before. It's very different to a locked rear that is always trying to push you straight.
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16 Oct 2021 09:21 #239450
by Keithy
You can have all the electronic aids in the world and enjoy wheels spinning and grabbing......or push the button and engage lockers......nice controlled ascent/traverse.
Can only imagine how a locked spool can have the same turning circle as an open diff.......welcome to the internet.
Can only imagine how a locked spool can have the same turning circle as an open diff.......welcome to the internet.
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16 Oct 2021 12:07 #239452
by Busta
It's a welded diff rather than a spool. I couldn't find anyone that made a spool for the front axle. And as it's in the steering axle the vehicle goes in whatever direction the front wheels are pointing. It really is that simple! People associate locked diffs with poor steering because they are almost exclusively fitted to the rear axle. Mine isn't.Can only imagine how a locked spool can have the same turning circle as an open diff.......welcome to the internet.
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16 Oct 2021 15:59 #239454
by Obarno
Manual VVT, 2 1/2" lift, ORA castor corrected arms, 2" ORA body lift, 4:1 transfer box, Uprated front shafts & CVs ERM , ARBs back & front 3.9 diffs, 6 point cage, ORA winch bumper - Superwinch EP9, ORA rear bumper, ORA axle truses, Diff guards ERM , TBR tank guard, Snorkel, Kumho KL71.30.9.50 15
To go back to the original question I have ARB lockers back and front in my Jimny and they really are good. One of the big advantages is that you can approach a difficult climb or obstacle slowly rather than using speed to get over it. I have done a lot of off roading in southern France where there are many tracks that are rocky and have steps etc. I find them particularly good for these situations. An upside is that you always have an air compressor for blowing up the tyres!
Manual VVT, 2 1/2" lift, ORA castor corrected arms, 2" ORA body lift, 4:1 transfer box, Uprated front shafts & CVs ERM , ARBs back & front 3.9 diffs, 6 point cage, ORA winch bumper - Superwinch EP9, ORA rear bumper, ORA axle truses, Diff guards ERM , TBR tank guard, Snorkel, Kumho KL71.30.9.50 15
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22 Oct 2021 20:36 #239566
by lookonimages
busta, reviving this thread as this had me thinking a lot this last couple days.
so on gen4 when I select 4x4 with the short stick, then the hubs also lock. when disengaged 4x4 with the short stick, then hubs disengage.
this means in 4x4 the hubs locked and 4x2 the front hubs is open (not locked)
am I then correct to say I can just weld the front diff. I will have full diff lock in 4x4 and freewheeling front hubs in 4x2 scenarios, and I have nothing else to do to make it work..
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Replied by lookonimages on topic Re:Lockers
Busta wrote:
It's a welded diff rather than a spool. I couldn't find anyone that made a spool for the front axle. And as it's in the steering axle the vehicle goes in whatever direction the front wheels are pointing. It really is that simple! People associate locked diffs with poor steering because they are almost exclusively fitted to the rear axle. Mine isn't.Can only imagine how a locked spool can have the same turning circle as an open diff.......welcome to the internet.
busta, reviving this thread as this had me thinking a lot this last couple days.
so on gen4 when I select 4x4 with the short stick, then the hubs also lock. when disengaged 4x4 with the short stick, then hubs disengage.
this means in 4x4 the hubs locked and 4x2 the front hubs is open (not locked)
am I then correct to say I can just weld the front diff. I will have full diff lock in 4x4 and freewheeling front hubs in 4x2 scenarios, and I have nothing else to do to make it work..
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22 Oct 2021 22:47 - 22 Oct 2021 22:50 #239567
by yakuza
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Replied by yakuza on topic Re:Lockers
Yes lookon that is correct.
However I would never do this. I have had lockers front and rear and with short wheelbase car you will soon go tired. As mine were positraction and let the faster Rolling wheel free, it was a bit better than the spool or welded diff. But still a real pain unless when you were offroading. If the car is a trailer queen only for offroad use then maybe for the rear. But if the car has any road use, or used in snow never would I put such a device in my car again.
ARB in the rear now. When I get rich, one in the front as well.
However I would never do this. I have had lockers front and rear and with short wheelbase car you will soon go tired. As mine were positraction and let the faster Rolling wheel free, it was a bit better than the spool or welded diff. But still a real pain unless when you were offroading. If the car is a trailer queen only for offroad use then maybe for the rear. But if the car has any road use, or used in snow never would I put such a device in my car again.
ARB in the rear now. When I get rich, one in the front as well.
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Last edit: 22 Oct 2021 22:50 by yakuza.
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