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Vitara 1.5" lift spacer kits

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12 Nov 2015 12:03 #156084 by X8GGY
Thanks for pointing that out (that it wasn't one of mine), but your thread title of "Vitara 1.5" lift spacer kits - BEWARE OF THEM" could be very damaging for my business...?

I reiterate, I have sold literally thousands of my little orange spring spacers... and have many, many happy customers...

Hope you get more joy from whoever it is you have a beef with...

Dave ;)
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12 Nov 2015 12:08 - 12 Nov 2015 12:10 #156086 by Russ-41
Replied by Russ-41 on topic Re:RE: Vitara 1.5" lift spacer kits

Jimny-Dave wrote: Thanks for pointing that out (that it wasn't one of mine), but your thread title of "Vitara 1.5" lift spacer kits - BEWARE OF THEM" could be very damaging for my business...?

I reiterate, I have sold literally thousands of my little orange spring spacers... and have many, many happy customers...

Hope you get more joy from whoever it is you have a beef with...

Dave ;)


Yes no worries mate, I have one of your spacer kits in my possesion and it's fine, 100% happy (it's fitted to a jimny so live axle 1:1 front and rear)

- I'll change the title, it's OTT, i was attention seeking.

These are hardy vehicles and I'm sure it does work, im sure many things work, but just because it works, doesn't mean it can't be improved or have increased durability - after all, this is what ALL the mods we do is about right?

I also want to make clear of the fact that I value your experience over qualification/maths and scientific theories (I'm not suggesting you DONT have them btw) - because I see to many apprentices thinking everything has a number or value that solves the problem, and they might be right, but the suck it and see approach works better, and combined with a little calculation its the most productive research and development method going, sometimes you just have to guess as its vastly quicker than working it out.

Nothing beats experience in the field.
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12 Nov 2015 12:16 #156088 by X8GGY
The supplier you have a beef with... they are MY spacers, I supply them with those spring spacers, but in black poly to differ from my own regular orange offering... :huh:

Durability - Steve "Munkee" Lawrence from over at Shropshire Suzuki has had a set of my spring spacers on for 100,000 miles, I'm sure anyone can PM to check the authenticity of that claim...

Yes, I don't have any engineering qualifications or experience, I have just abused Vitaras for the last 22 years so I know what works, without all the trig and maffs involved ;)

And now I'm playing with Jimnys, whilst scaling down the Bits4Vits business due to threads like these, and increased competition from others making similar spacers, etc, to my own...

Going back to play with my Jim'...

Dave B)

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12 Nov 2015 12:24 - 12 Nov 2015 12:27 #156090 by Russ-41
Replied by Russ-41 on topic Re:RE: Vitara 1.5" lift spacer kits
I'm not saying they won't work, and clearly they do. I'm saying, they could be better, why is it so hard to convey to someone that improvements could be made?

Lets have an analogy, you could be finding a free £10 every day of your life, someone says, hey, you'll find £15 over there? and the response being, I've been finding £10 all my life it works fine?

Well, yes I'm sure it works fine, I've covered that - do you want the £15 or not? :blink:
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12 Nov 2015 12:34 #156092 by X8GGY
I'd welcome your input to how you think they could be improved?

They fit nice and snuggly into the chassis cups where the original spring seats sat
They are the optimum height in my humble experience
They are coiled to match the tops of the spring coils, not flat like others/copies of mine, so you get the full lift, not a spring that sits on a kink against a flat spacer, or digs itself into the spacer
They are made from automotive grade polyurethane by one of the UK's best Poly suppliers
They are made in three piece metal moulds (not rubber) which cost me a fortune, so they are all perfectly shaped
Hence they have the upstanding lip to hold the spring in place also, which some others/copies lack

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Oooh, and please direct me to the free £15 notes ;)

We'll agree to disagree I think, thanks for your thoughts though...

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12 Nov 2015 12:37 - 12 Nov 2015 12:43 #156093 by Russ-41
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I don't think we disagree, you're spacers are very nice and I wouldn't change a thing. I'm suggesting geometric changes that's all - a few mm less here, a few more over on this part, its refinement and improvement, not a scrap and start again.

Dave as you know you've had £££'s of my hard earned and that won't change, I love the service and enjoy it!
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