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19 Oct 2024 21:24 #257959 by DrRobin
Part 2 of the North East 4x4 Club October trial.



I am doing a trek tomorrow, Reeth to Ripon, over the hills of course.

Robin

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20 Oct 2024 21:48 #257971 by DrRobin
I had a long day out in the top end of the Yorkshire Dales today with George and Paul of Trails and Tracks. We had every bit of weather possible, starting at Reeth in heavy rain and round the hills, very windy, via Kettlewell to finish at Ripon. I will do some videos but here are a couple of stills.

 

 

The sun came out in the afternoon 

 

A thoroughly enjoyable day out.

Robin

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21 Oct 2024 11:18 #257976 by Chicken
Looks like you need a little 2 inch lift or so, makes difference, and actually if you get the right suspension might even make it feel less rolly and more stable.

Thats what I found anyway, after the lift it felt more planted, which seems backwards, but I think itd more to do with the stiffer suspension that the GVM upgrade came with.
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21 Oct 2024 18:33 - 21 Oct 2024 18:35 #257982 by DrRobin

Looks like you need a little 2 inch lift or so, makes difference, and actually if you get the right suspension might even make it feel less rolly and more stable.

Thats what I found anyway, after the lift it felt more planted, which seems backwards, but I think itd more to do with the stiffer suspension that the GVM upgrade came with.
it’s actually occurred to me that I do need a lift, but I have always avoided it, I don’t want to make the car worse on the road, I would need to court opinion from those who have lifted, the lift kit used and how the on road manners compare.

If I did lift, I would consider a second set of wheels with some higher profile tyres (may be 16”) and just put them on for the trial days, I could also consider road legal mud tyres then.  A lift only raises the chassis, it doesn’t do anything for the diffs, for that you need bigger wheels/tyres.

Trouble is cost starts to add up and I might find I am lacking in power, especially in the mud and soft soil.  I will have to have a think.

Robin

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Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog

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21 Oct 2024 18:58 #257984 by Chicken
well I found that with the ironman GVM upgrade (2 inch lift) it actually felt more planted on the road than stock, didnt feel like it rolled around quite as much, probably due to stiffer suspension it has. I didnt go much bigger tyres, 215/75 on the stock rims, but a popular option with this lift is 235/75r15 on the stock rims also. you do notice bit worse fuel economy apparently and the BFG AT tyres are pretty aggressive.
probably harder to find a local Jimny that has something like this done over there seeing how they stopped selling them so early. But there are heaps over here.
I was concerned also about if it would feel even more top heavy when lifting, but imo it really didnt. id a fairly decent investment though so does require some pondering ;)

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21 Oct 2024 21:56 #257988 by jlines
My daily commercial and my SZ5 both have 2inch lifts fitted. My lcv has the pedders kit fitted and my sz5 has a trialmaster kit. Compared to our non lifted commercial they certainly haven't made road manners any worse in fact in my opinion they feel slightly better taking bumps and pot holes on the road compared to a standard car. All of our cars have BFG KM3 mud terrains fitted. Out of the two kits on my cars I prefer the pedders kit. Car feels a lot more solid and doesn't lean that much compared to my SZ5 Which has more lean to it when going round corners. As you rightly say the lifts don't actually gain you any more clearance underneath. They just allow more room in the Arches to allow bigger tires to be fitted and you get more flex. Personally I wouldn't go much further as you will start to effect the gearing. When we spectated trials back when lots were using SJs. Most cars were on small lifts with a decent set of narrow tall mud tires which was enough to make them really competitive. I think you could give the car a small lift Robin and I think you won't notice really any difference or you may find it better on the road. You could then buy some mud terrains on some cheaper steel wheels or aftermarket alloys to use only for trails or off-road meets.
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