My new trialler

i have have a windscreen brace that bolts on yer its in the way but as of yet its never failed an mot and i cant see why it should

I had an "investigation" into the front brace for an MOT after a tester tried to fail it.

It does not fail an MOT due to it being a structure forward of the windscreen, not on or part of the windscreen. See www.motuk.co.uk/manual_830.htm

Otherwise the spare wheel on Landrovers, front supports on long style roofracks, flags on diplomatic style cars, crane jibs etc. would also fail.

My Jimny has the KAP cage and the previous owner found it flexed around something terrible, therefore it has a cross brace and rubber bungs at the top of the cage between the cage and the body.

Martin

I think the MOT tester was just a JAP 4x4 hater! Got a fail paper for the brace, then when it did pass he put that the car is *DANGEROUS* as an advisory! And they verbally said just because it is jacked up on big wheels.
I wont be going there again! And the brace is going back on.

:laugh: there nerly twins mine was also built by KAP im leaving my windscreen bar in though the only thing it dose is touch the bonnet when its open but that doesne bother me :lol:

They may be twins Mudman, but I think mine has been in a few more fights (and lost!) than yours! Yours looks very smart.

mine also ment to be a kap cage

All the cages seem to be different, but the front bumpers all look very similar. The back bumpers seem to be different though. I wonder how many they made, and are they all accident damaged repaired vehicles?

mine doesnt see to have any damage in that way and i have a standard rear bumper with a 2"x2" box section going right across the rear its coming off in the new year as its to heavy and i dont do much off roading in it its more of a work horse for me hench the reson im running my a/ts not my m/ts tyres

mine was built from new and mine may look like its seen less fights and it only done 37,000 but its had a hard life, and mark yours looks like a rhino rays cage with the extra side bar by the rear windows and what look like holes for the wing bars have a look on his site at his cages and youll see what i meen but its defo a KAP front bumper

iv been to rays and its not one of his the quality isnt there and he uses a double diagonal brace in side i only have one its coming off soon its to heavy

best thing to do is what i did and e-mail KAP with some pics and your reg number and see what he says as he doesnt suply flat pack cages there all fitted in house