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                04 Sep 2025 10:49                #261835
        by arthursc
    
    
 	
					
			
				    
            
            
            
            
            
                                
    
                                                
    
        Brake Issue - Diagnostic Help Required was created by arthursc            
    
        I have a 2008 Jimny ABS VVT with an issue that  we can't quite get to the bottom of.
Symptoms:
Breaks very spongy and foot to the floor almost before we the brakes seem to work. Pumping the brakes seems to give a better outcome , but once you take your foot of the brake to re-apply, then pressure has gone.
New oil, New lines, New pads, shoes and disk all round.
It is symptomatic of air getting into the system and bleeding doesn't resolve the issue.
Also can anyone identify this part that sits below the ABS unit on the near side of the engine?
Thanks in advance, Colin.
     
    Symptoms:
Breaks very spongy and foot to the floor almost before we the brakes seem to work. Pumping the brakes seems to give a better outcome , but once you take your foot of the brake to re-apply, then pressure has gone.
New oil, New lines, New pads, shoes and disk all round.
It is symptomatic of air getting into the system and bleeding doesn't resolve the issue.
Also can anyone identify this part that sits below the ABS unit on the near side of the engine?
Thanks in advance, Colin.
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                04 Sep 2025 12:26                #261836
        by Lambert
    
    
            
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        Replied by Lambert on topic Brake Issue - Diagnostic Help Required            
    
        Could be a bad wheel bearing allowing the disc to push the pads back meaning you have to take up the excess each time?    
            Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
Pavement princess or back road menace?
Bellerophon (2024 grello van daily)
ADORJ Attention Deficit Ooooh Race Jimny!
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                04 Sep 2025 13:46                #261837
        by fordem
    
    
        
Valve assembly, proportioning & differential.
    
            
            
            
            
            
                                
    
                                                
    
        Replied by fordem on topic Brake Issue - Diagnostic Help Required            
    Also can anyone identify this part that sits below the ABS unit on the near side of the engine?
Valve assembly, proportioning & differential.
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                04 Sep 2025 13:49                #261838
        by jackonlyjack
    
    
            
            
            
            
            
                                
    
                                                
    
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        You say new discs all round 
So you have rear conversion fitted?
Did you unbolt the rear caliper carriers and spin it round the disc to put bleed nipple to the highest point for bleeding
            
    So you have rear conversion fitted?
Did you unbolt the rear caliper carriers and spin it round the disc to put bleed nipple to the highest point for bleeding
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                04 Sep 2025 13:54                #261839
        by fordem
    
    
        
Generally speaking, this will cause long pedal travel, but not a spongy pedal. In 50+ years, I've only seen one occasion on which a spongy pedal was not caused by trapped air, and that time it was a brutal "hack job" with butchered pads.
    
            
            
            
            
            
                                
    
                                                
    
        Replied by fordem on topic Brake Issue - Diagnostic Help Required            
    Could be a bad wheel bearing allowing the disc to push the pads back meaning you have to take up the excess each time?
Generally speaking, this will cause long pedal travel, but not a spongy pedal. In 50+ years, I've only seen one occasion on which a spongy pedal was not caused by trapped air, and that time it was a brutal "hack job" with butchered pads.
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                04 Sep 2025 16:24                #261840
        by arthursc
    
    
            
            
            
            
            
                                
    
                                                
    
        Replied by arthursc on topic Brake Issue - Diagnostic Help Required            
    
        We’ve isolated the rear. Blanked off as part of the diagnostics. Still happens with the front. Servo has good seal so not that. Pointing towards the master cylinder.    
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