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Doubts on suspension parts to buy after a small lift
03 May 2025 00:13 #260295
by JimnyCol
Colombia: 2017 Jimny JB43, M13A 163,000 km, 235/75 R15 BF Goodrich A/T, +4 cm XT Automotive suspension lift, TTS rear air diff locker, Easy Traction manual low traction kit, AISIN free wheel manual hubs, custom front and rear bumpers, custom roofrack
Doubts on suspension parts to buy after a small lift was created by JimnyCol
My Jimny is a JB43, 2017, and I'm based in Colombia. The car has been lifted with a suspension kit (coils + absorbers) +4 cm by XT Automotive, and I have castor correction bushes already fitted.
Given that the coil spring seats (especially the rear ones) are partially cracked, I'm willing to buy SHOWA GARAGE 10mm Coil Spring Spacer for Jimny , not sure if 10 mm or even 15 mm. This would bring the suspension lift to +2" approx.
For such a lift, would it be correct to buy TANIGUCHI Rear Panhard Rod Relocation Bracket for Jimny and SHOWA GARAGE Short Stabilizer Links for Jimny too, to correct the geometry now?
Given that the coil spring seats (especially the rear ones) are partially cracked, I'm willing to buy SHOWA GARAGE 10mm Coil Spring Spacer for Jimny , not sure if 10 mm or even 15 mm. This would bring the suspension lift to +2" approx.
For such a lift, would it be correct to buy TANIGUCHI Rear Panhard Rod Relocation Bracket for Jimny and SHOWA GARAGE Short Stabilizer Links for Jimny too, to correct the geometry now?
Colombia: 2017 Jimny JB43, M13A 163,000 km, 235/75 R15 BF Goodrich A/T, +4 cm XT Automotive suspension lift, TTS rear air diff locker, Easy Traction manual low traction kit, AISIN free wheel manual hubs, custom front and rear bumpers, custom roofrack
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03 May 2025 03:48 #260298
by Lambert
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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Replied by Lambert on topic Doubts on suspension parts to buy after a small lift
Usually a 2 inch lift doesn't need much more than the springs and dampers and normally they drive ok afterwards. That's not to say there is no benefit to reworking the rest of the geometry but that is normally only needed on a bigger lift like 3 inches and higher. Normally. See what it drives like first.
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
ADOS Attention Deficit Ooooh Shiny!
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03 May 2025 06:11 - 03 May 2025 06:12 #260300
by Soeley
Black 2019 Jimny SZ5
www.bigjimny.com/index.php/forum/8-my-ji...ley-s-2019-black-sz5
Replied by Soeley on topic Doubts on suspension parts to buy after a small lift
The Old Man Emu 40mm lift kit comes with a rear panhard relocation bracket. During development of the kit they worked out the ride was much better with it. There is a video from OME out there, about it.
I have this kit fitted to my JB74, not added any spacers to the lift, so not looked onto the short stabiliser links.
I have this kit fitted to my JB74, not added any spacers to the lift, so not looked onto the short stabiliser links.
Black 2019 Jimny SZ5
www.bigjimny.com/index.php/forum/8-my-ji...ley-s-2019-black-sz5
Last edit: 03 May 2025 06:12 by Soeley.
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03 May 2025 17:08 #260301
by fordem
Replied by fordem on topic Doubts on suspension parts to buy after a small lift
If the original lift did not come with some form of panhard bar correction, it would mean the axle is no longer centrally located under the car, but rather, offset to one side (I think it's right), and this is before you add the additional 10~15 mm of lift.
Apart from being offset to one side, it also means that as the rear suspension cycles up/down, the extent of the offset varies, so that the tail of the car wags from side to side.
I want to take the time to point out here, that an adjustable length panhard bar as supplied with some lift kits only fixes the offset at the new ride height, the variation in offset, or the tail wagging will remain, the fix is to move one end (either one) up or down to return the bar to it's original horizontal (or parallel to the ground) orientation.
I'm not in favour of "mixing & matching" after-market suspension components, someone will have to sit down and examine how the pieces interact with the original suspension and also with each other.
The Taniguchi relocation bracket says it's highly recommended for more than two inch lifts and can even be used with one inch lifts, in reality, it has to be designed for one specific lift height (the distance by which it moves the end of the panhard bar) and use with any other lift height creates a "non-optimal" situation - it will either not centralize the axle as it should or even possibly offset it in the opposite direction. Unfortunately their website doesn't provide dimensions, it does suggest it's suitable to be used by itself, for a 20~60 mm lift - should we guess that it's really a 40mm lift correction?
Apart from being offset to one side, it also means that as the rear suspension cycles up/down, the extent of the offset varies, so that the tail of the car wags from side to side.
I want to take the time to point out here, that an adjustable length panhard bar as supplied with some lift kits only fixes the offset at the new ride height, the variation in offset, or the tail wagging will remain, the fix is to move one end (either one) up or down to return the bar to it's original horizontal (or parallel to the ground) orientation.
I'm not in favour of "mixing & matching" after-market suspension components, someone will have to sit down and examine how the pieces interact with the original suspension and also with each other.
The Taniguchi relocation bracket says it's highly recommended for more than two inch lifts and can even be used with one inch lifts, in reality, it has to be designed for one specific lift height (the distance by which it moves the end of the panhard bar) and use with any other lift height creates a "non-optimal" situation - it will either not centralize the axle as it should or even possibly offset it in the opposite direction. Unfortunately their website doesn't provide dimensions, it does suggest it's suitable to be used by itself, for a 20~60 mm lift - should we guess that it's really a 40mm lift correction?
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