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Re:hard to get rear door gen 3 hinges

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28 Oct 2024 07:40 #258072 by yakuza
For those outside britain there is now a replacemnt hinge available:FEBEST 0799-HBDSH413LOW I have ordered the lower hinge and will come back soon as I have tested it for fitment and impression af quality.

My old one is the one that came with the car and now is so worn that the door barely fits.

Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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28 Oct 2024 10:29 #258073 by fordem
I'll be interested in hearing more, especially about how you feel after a year or two - my personal experience with Febest has left me with a bad taste and I will only use their products as a "get me home" solution.

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28 Oct 2024 12:11 - 28 Oct 2024 12:13 #258074 by yakuza
The old one is from 2005 and has been bad for maybe 10 years and very bad the last 3.
The copy I buy now is made from pressed steel like the original and the bolt may or may not be from ordinary bolt material. I cannot see how it could be less than half of the original quality but I may or may not be amazed.
But if I get more than 5 years out of it, it has to be a win at half price.

I am more worried about fitment and if there is enough room for adjustment to make my door fit the hole in the car.

Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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28 Oct 2024 12:30 #258075 by fordem
Most of my febest purchases have been suspension parts - strut mounts that had bearings with play in them right out of the box, ball joints that lasted less than two years, rubber bushes that didn't make it through a year, and these were all on unmodified vehicles that didn't see any sort of off road usage.

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28 Oct 2024 15:38 #258076 by mlines
Of course, genuine ones are in the BigJimny store and I do send overseas

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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses

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28 Oct 2024 22:48 #258083 by yakuza
oh i know but our NOK currency is now like pesetas.
GBP is 30% up, USD and Euro is 40% up, even Danish and Swedish is 20% up.

Wish I could not remember the currencies five or ten years back.

Many things have almost doubled in price
And wages have not gone up much.

Come summertime the roads will be packed with german tourists again going to a low cost country for their holidays.

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30 Oct 2024 08:25 - 30 Oct 2024 08:26 #258107 by Motacilla
Thank you for the reminder. I am planning next year's potential Jimny trips and perhaps it is time for me to stock up on some of that Norwegian lira. You are just one ferry ride and a Sweden away from me.

About hinges, has anyone tried boring out and sleeving? Not worth paying someone to do it, but if you have a mate with a lathe who owes a favor...  But perhaps this is not practical with the stamped hinges of the Gen3, I don't know.

But I also agree with fordem-- that Febest stuff is cheap for a reason. Not that that is a bad thing in itself, but the buyer has to go in with eyes open.
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30 Oct 2024 08:52 #258108 by yakuza
I was thinking if drilling out and to refit a good bolt, but then if that plan might fail with too little material left on the hinge or if the diameter after drilling is out of dim for a bolt I can source, then I would be without the car for a while. Waiting for that or Sleeving, with a fitted bushing is way too much work or hassle for the price of the original one in Martins shop.

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30 Oct 2024 09:10 #258109 by yakuza

Thank you for the reminder. I am planning next year's potential Jimny trips and perhaps it is time for me to stock up on some of that Norwegian lira. You are just one ferry ride and a Sweden away from me.


 
Off topic, but I would strongly recommend avoiding the well known areas like Prekestolen, Lofoten, Geiranger, most places you have seen on Instagram. And/or avoid the most busy season in July. Norway is so much more. And remember camping at least 150m away from any inhabited house or cottage, and not to drive outside the road. The laws in Norway (and sweden) for free camping are under great pressure now that many foreign campers swarm the most popular Instagram and tiktok places, and many refuse to understand or obide by these laws and also the law of no offroading. 
Overlanders and campers destroys overlanding.

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30 Oct 2024 10:37 #258110 by Motacilla
I will continue off-topic if people don't mind.

Thank you for the great tips.  Unfortunately I am too old for Instagram and too spoiled to sleep in a tent anymore. I agree that some overlanders/campers do have bad manners; in my country, it is mostly (no offense to any present) Germans who think they can just park their Wohnmobil anyplace they like for two days. It is always weird to see a family camped out even in the middle of town in front of the post office. I sometimes wonder if they tried camping in the woods but got frightened by the wildlife-- not so many bears, lynxes, boars, etc in manicured Germany.

All of us, when we travel, could do a better job of seeing the inhabitants of the places we visit as real people and not just local colour. Tourists are often hesitant to strike up conversations with locals, and in the end perhaps when the tourists offend it is just because they don't realize quite what they are doing wrong.

Here on the eastern side of the Baltic, the rules are a bit different from Norway. Camping on private property is not done; you will cause great offense. But on the other hand, the state forest management company has many hundreds of free camping locations, and private camping lots must number hundreds more, so it is easy to find a 'correct' camping spot.

And driving offroad is not really an issue here in the sense that some of our old logging roads can offer just as much challenge as any overlanding route! If you want to get your Jimny up to the doorhandles in mud, someone can recommend a disused nearby road that will be sufficiently entertaining. Often the only use for these old roads is farmer's tractors, and old ladies going out to pick berries.  Sometimes there is an abandoned Soviet military base at the end of it; those are the places where I don't recommend picking berries...

Norway is such a beautiful country. I think it struggles with being "loved too much," like Venice or Mt Fuji.  There are downsides to having too many friends.  But it sure is a great background for selfies. 
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30 Oct 2024 16:21 - 30 Oct 2024 16:31 #258111 by yakuza
I do not mind the off-topic either and totally agree with everything you say here.

There is plenty space and possibilities to be alone on the mountain roads.
Just got back from a week long trip and drove for miles on gravel roads with mostly just me around.

 

 
Yes, yes I know it is the wrong car :) 

Take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but footprints.

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04 Nov 2024 07:27 - 04 Nov 2024 07:41 #258182 by yakuza
Back on topic now: :)

 
recieved the Febest hinge now. looks OK and galvanizing look strong too.
Still wanted some paint on it to make it last.

 
Febest on the bottom painted black.

 
My old hinge did not look so very warn but the bolt maybe a bit bent, maybe my car has had a collision on this part of the car.
Got the door adjusted ok and fits the hole in the car much better now. 
The door opens and shuts easy and the door lock now slides onto the reciever at the C-post very nice and not catching like before.
the gap between the door and the car was like 0.5mm on top and 5mm on the bottom, and now is more comfortable 3-4mm even bottom and top

All in all this part looks OK for price. No idea for how long and may not have enough room for adjustment when it start to sag.
That might have to do with my car might having an injury and not being straight here in the rear, or my rear door saging from having a heavy 235 BFG on there for years now and a bag/sack of firewood too, making the door sag even more. 

Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Last edit: 04 Nov 2024 07:41 by yakuza.
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