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A couple of issues (Gen 3)
19 Sep 2024 08:40 #257587
by Forde
A couple of issues (Gen 3) was created by Forde
I got my first Jimny a few months ago and quickly realised it wasn't quite as good as I was led to believe. Before I ask for advice I just want to clarify that any replies should be dumbed down, as I'm no mechanic!
1. When viewed from the front it's lop sided, though it wasn't when I bought it. It is lower on the drivers side and I think it's more towards the front than the rear. Would new springs/shocks be the first thing to look at? I don't want to spend money unnecessarily of course.
2. I have a quite loud clunking noise coming from the rear. It's particularly noticeable when going over bumps or potholes in the road. Any slight change in level can make it happen. It can also occur between gear changes, as the the throttle is released and then reengaged. I don't know if it's something to do with the drive shaft or maybe bushings somewhere.
3. About 150 miles after I bought it, then engine light came on. A code reader pointed towards the exhaust (lambda?) sensor. This looked pretty new already but it was replaced anyway. It didn't do many miles before the light came on again. There's no noticeable issues when driving it. When soapy water is sprayed over the exhaust manifold there is a tiny spot where air bubbles can be seen. I'm wondering if this is the issue.
Any advice would be really appreciated. I already have the front kingpin bearings and swivel seals to replace but would really like to keep on top of maintaining it, as I've wanted a Jimny for years and love it!
Thanks in advance
1. When viewed from the front it's lop sided, though it wasn't when I bought it. It is lower on the drivers side and I think it's more towards the front than the rear. Would new springs/shocks be the first thing to look at? I don't want to spend money unnecessarily of course.
2. I have a quite loud clunking noise coming from the rear. It's particularly noticeable when going over bumps or potholes in the road. Any slight change in level can make it happen. It can also occur between gear changes, as the the throttle is released and then reengaged. I don't know if it's something to do with the drive shaft or maybe bushings somewhere.
3. About 150 miles after I bought it, then engine light came on. A code reader pointed towards the exhaust (lambda?) sensor. This looked pretty new already but it was replaced anyway. It didn't do many miles before the light came on again. There's no noticeable issues when driving it. When soapy water is sprayed over the exhaust manifold there is a tiny spot where air bubbles can be seen. I'm wondering if this is the issue.
Any advice would be really appreciated. I already have the front kingpin bearings and swivel seals to replace but would really like to keep on top of maintaining it, as I've wanted a Jimny for years and love it!
Thanks in advance
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19 Sep 2024 09:31 #257588
by facade
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic A couple of issues (Gen 3)
1) they all lean. It depends on how bad it is.
Even my Gen4 leans. I find it best to look away to the side of it when approaching from behind.
2) You are going to have to look for it. Something is loose, broken or has excessive play. Get underneath and inspect everything, and if it isn't obvious, start levering at bushes with a pry bar.
3) Could just be poor quality sensors- what was the error code?
Even my Gen4 leans. I find it best to look away to the side of it when approaching from behind.
2) You are going to have to look for it. Something is loose, broken or has excessive play. Get underneath and inspect everything, and if it isn't obvious, start levering at bushes with a pry bar.
3) Could just be poor quality sensors- what was the error code?
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
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19 Sep 2024 13:31 #257591
by Motacilla
Replied by Motacilla on topic A couple of issues (Gen 3)
A "quite loud" clunking noise from suspension is serious. Don't go anywhere until you know what the problem is.
On the bright side, should be easy to spot...
On the bright side, should be easy to spot...
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19 Sep 2024 18:04 #257594
by DrRobin
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog
Replied by DrRobin on topic A couple of issues (Gen 3)
Re your lambda sensor, they can fail prematurely for a number of reasons, but shouldn’t fail after 150 miles.
You might want to check out this article, it gives all of the likely causes of sensor failure.
pmmonline.co.uk/technical/lambda-sensor-failure-diagnosis/
If it is contamination then that points to another problem in the engine.
A clunk when going over a bump is often a cracked coil spring or failed damper, both easy to spot by your mechanic. It could also be a suspension bush, but it would be handy to know how old and how many miles the vehicle has done.
Robin
You might want to check out this article, it gives all of the likely causes of sensor failure.
pmmonline.co.uk/technical/lambda-sensor-failure-diagnosis/
If it is contamination then that points to another problem in the engine.
A clunk when going over a bump is often a cracked coil spring or failed damper, both easy to spot by your mechanic. It could also be a suspension bush, but it would be handy to know how old and how many miles the vehicle has done.
Robin
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog
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19 Sep 2024 21:17 #257597
by Busta
Replied by Busta on topic A couple of issues (Gen 3)
All Jimnys want to lean to the drivers front corner because that's the heaviest bit of the car (steering box, column + battery). Standard cars use a softer spring on the passenger rear corner to counter it. If you go down the route of replacing the springs with standard height ones you need to make sure you got the correct rear springs, as most retailers aren't aware that they are different side to side.
If you fit a lift kit then they use a longer spring on the drivers side front corner instead.
If you fit a lift kit then they use a longer spring on the drivers side front corner instead.
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20 Sep 2024 08:01 - 20 Sep 2024 08:03 #257603
by yakuza
When the lambda has been changed without it helping it just might be that the signal it send is an actual fault. The Catalytic converters on the Jimny tend to fail, most often the front one in the manifold disintegrates and, the dust and pieces falls down the pipe and congest the second one making it overheat and melt. (worst case description)
I have replaced both mine with just one generic cheap below inline and, removed the one in the manifold.
Still pass MOT but throws a fault from time to time that I reset with a bluetooth device in the OBD port.
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Replied by yakuza on topic A couple of issues (Gen 3)
I got my first Jimny a few months ago and quickly realised it wasn't quite as good as I was led to believe. Before I ask for advice I just want to clarify that any replies should be dumbed down, as I'm no mechanic!
3. About 150 miles after I bought it, then engine light came on. A code reader pointed towards the exhaust (lambda?) sensor. This looked pretty new already but it was replaced anyway. It didn't do many miles before the light came on again. There's no noticeable issues when driving it. When soapy water is sprayed over the exhaust manifold there is a tiny spot where air bubbles can be seen. I'm wondering if this is the issue.
Any advice would be really appreciated. I already have the front kingpin bearings and swivel seals to replace but would really like to keep on top of maintaining it, as I've wanted a Jimny for years and love it!
Thanks in advance
When the lambda has been changed without it helping it just might be that the signal it send is an actual fault. The Catalytic converters on the Jimny tend to fail, most often the front one in the manifold disintegrates and, the dust and pieces falls down the pipe and congest the second one making it overheat and melt. (worst case description)
I have replaced both mine with just one generic cheap below inline and, removed the one in the manifold.
Still pass MOT but throws a fault from time to time that I reset with a bluetooth device in the OBD port.
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Last edit: 20 Sep 2024 08:03 by yakuza.
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20 Sep 2024 19:13 #257610
by Manxman
Replied by Manxman on topic A couple of issues (Gen 3)
A clunk from the suspension and now leaning, would suggest to me that you've broken a coil spring - happens more often than you'd think. Have a good look around, ideally with each wheel in turn jacked up off the ground for maximum droop.
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24 Sep 2024 10:47 #257666
by Forde
Replied by Forde on topic A couple of issues (Gen 3)
Thanks all for the replies. A bit of info to digest there. I'll get a look underneath when I get it in the garage next week.
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